Kerry STILL whining about his loss! 66 replies

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NiteStryker

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#1 13 years ago

Just saw this....and in a typical democratic fashion, he will not admit to defeat.

BOSTON (AP) -- Sen. John Kerry, in some of his most pointed public comments yet about the presidential election, invoked Martin Luther King Jr.'s legacy on Monday as he criticized President Bush and decried reports of voter disenfranchisement.

The Massachusetts Democrat, Bush's challenger in November, spoke at Boston's annual Martin Luther King Day Breakfast. He reiterated that he decided not to challenge the election results, but "thousands of people were suppressed in the effort to vote."

"Voting machines were distributed in uneven ways. In Democratic districts, it took people four, five, eleven hours to vote, while Republicans (went) through in 10 minutes -- same voting machines, same process, our America," he said.

In his comments, Kerry also compared the democracy-building efforts in Iraq with voting in the U.S., saying that Americans had their names purged from voting lists and were kept from casting ballots.

"In a nation which is willing to spend several hundred million dollars in Iraq to bring them democracy, we cannot tolerate that too many people here in America were denied that democracy," Kerry said.

Voting irregularities in Ohio drove primarily Democratic challenges to the Nov. 2 election, but Congress eventually affirmed President Bush the winner by a slim electoral vote count of 286-251 -- plus a single vote cast by a Minnesota elector for Kerry's running mate, former Sen. John Edwards.[/QUOTE] http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/usworld/news-article.aspx?storyid=30964

Now he blames the VOTING MACHINES! :lol:

This guy gotta give up. At least he still has his senate job, and hes not some washout who no1 will remember in 20 years.

But this is a new low. He conceeds when he looses, and he actually gained respect. Now he blames the voting machines... :cort:

I dont kno anywhere where it took ANYONE, republican or democrat, 11 hours to vote. Thats a completly ridiculous statement. There were lines, but 11 hours? Most I heard was 3 and that was in Ohio.

[QUOTE=Homer Simpson]Lousy Democrats




Tekk9

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#2 13 years ago

Most voters that voted democrat didn't like Kerry, they just hated Bush. Bush has some die-hard supporters but again, most just didn't like Kerry because he was not Bush. Not because his stance. Just because he's Kerry. That's why I hate partisan politics. I think both parties need to work on getting better candidates. Until then, look, conservatives STILL whining about Kerry. Just let it go, man. He lost. We know it, the nation knows it. If he doesn't, that's sad.....




NiteStryker

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#3 13 years ago

Its just amusing. He Flip-Flopped AGAIN. He was nice and gracious and conceeded, then he turns around and claims election fraud.




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#4 13 years ago

NiteStryker, you totally misinterpreted that article. Kerry wasn't making excuses for why he lost. He wasn't claiming that if the cases of voter fraud and other voting problems weren't there, that he would have won and not Bush. He's merely saying that we still have many problems in our voting systems. But you, NiteStryker, want him to shut up about it. Why?? Don't you want to make sure our voting systems work as smoothly as possible? You act as if it's not a problem, simply because Bush won. What if the election were closer and Kerry won as a result of crappy electronic voting machines that malfunctioned, or voter fraud? Would you be saying that it's no big deal then? Kerry is merely concerned with making sure every vote counts. And the claims about problems with the electronic voting machines is not a new thing. Democrats have been bringing it up years before this election.




Μαjïç MushrøøM

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#5 13 years ago

It is unfortunate that people are unable (or unwilling) to distinguish between Kerry's complaints of election loss and fraudulent practices in the voting system. :vikki:




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#6 13 years ago

That article is about fixing voting for the future not for this election. He knows hes not going to win. And please name something Kerry flip flopped about.




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#7 13 years ago

Well after news from the election about diebold, It's pretty easy to change anyones mind about the election.




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#8 13 years ago

Not really...

There are plenty of dems out there seeking to rewrite history. We won, you lost, get over it.




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#9 13 years ago
NiteStrykerIts just amusing. He Flip-Flopped AGAIN. He was nice and gracious and conceeded, then he turns around and claims election fraud.[/QUOTE] ya i thought his flip floping would stop after the election was over but i guess i was wrong if i were him i would just finish my term and then drop out of society's view he already has enough money to buy a every suv he wants... wait his "family" can buy every suv he... they want [quote=Homer Simpson]Lousy Democrats

/me bows to Homer :bows: edit: iv been looking at the election map and iv noticed that there are very few liberal "states" most of America is conservative its mainly just a few large counties that are liberal if you look at it




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#10 13 years ago

you lose? who are you talking to?

1. 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies: Diebold and ES&S. http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diebold

2. There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the U.S. voting machine industry. http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0916-04.htm http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html

3. The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers. http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/private_company.html http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html

4. The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year." http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/28/sunday/main632436.shtml http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1647886

5. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel used to be chairman of ES&S. He became Senator based on votes counted by ES&S machines. http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2004/03/03_200.html http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/031004Fitrakis/031004fitrakis.html

6. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, long-connected with the Bush family, was recently caught lying about his ownership of ES&S by the Senate Ethics Committee. http://www.blackboxvoting.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=26 http://www.hillnews.com/news/012903/hagel.aspx http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/archives/000896.php

7. Senator Chuck Hagel was on a short list of George W. Bush's vice-presidential candidates. http://www.businessweek.com/2000/00_28/b3689130.htm http://theindependent.com/stories/052700/new_hagel27.html

8. ES&S is the largest voting machine manufacturer in the U.S. and counts almost 60% of all U.S. votes. http://www.essvote.com/HTML/about/about.html http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html

9. Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have no paper trail of any votes. In other words, there is no way to verify that the data coming out of the machine is the same as what was legitimately put in by voters. http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm http://www.itworld.com/Tech/2987/041020evotestates/pfindex.html

10. Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and ticket machines, all of which log each transaction and can generate a paper trail. http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm http://www.diebold.com/solutions/default.htm

11. Diebold is based in Ohio. http://www.diebold.com/aboutus/ataglance/default.htm

12. Diebold employed 5 convicted felons as senior managers and developers to help write the central compiler computer code that counted 50% of the votes in 30 states. http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,61640,00.html http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/10/301469.shtml

13. Jeff Dean, Diebold's Senior Vice-President and senior programmer on Diebold's central compiler code, was convicted of 23 counts of felony theft in the first degree. http://www.chuckherrin.com/HackthevoteFAQ.htm#how http://www.blackboxvoting.org/bbv_chapter-8.pdf

14. Diebold Senior Vice-President Jeff Dean was convicted of planting back doors in his software and using a "high degree of sophistication" to evade detection over a period of 2 years. http://www.chuckherrin.com/HackthevoteFAQ.htm#how http://www.blackboxvoting.org/bbv_chapter-8.pdf

15. None of the international election observers were allowed in the polls in Ohio. http://www.globalexchange.org/update/press/2638.html http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/10/26/loc_elexoh.html

16. California banned the use of Diebold machines because the security was so bad. Despite Diebold's claims that the audit logs could not be hacked, a chimpanzee was able to do it! (See the movie here.) http://wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,63298,00.html http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4874190

17. 30% of all U.S. votes are carried out on unverifiable touch screen voting machines with no paper trail. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/28/sunday/main632436.shtml

18. All -- not some -- but all the voting machine errors detected and reported in Florida went in favor of Bush or Republican candidates. http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,65757,00.html http://www.yuricareport.com/ElectionAftermath04/ThreeResearchStudiesBushIsOut.htm http://www.rise4news.net/extravotes.html http://www.ilcaonline.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=950 http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0411/S00227.htm

19. The governor of the state of Florida, Jeb Bush, is the President's brother. http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/tallahassee/news/local/7628725.htm http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10544-2004Oct29.html

20. Serious voting anomalies in Florida -- again always favoring Bush -- have been mathematically demonstrated and experts are recommending further investigation. http://www.yuricareport.com/ElectionAftermath04/ThreeResearchStudiesBushIsOut.htm http://tinyurl.com/6nlhr http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/tens_of_thousands.html http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm http://www.consortiumnews.com/2004/110904.html http://uscountvotes.org/