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Vasili

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#11 11 years ago

Donutz, your posts are always so huge.

Society is infulenced by media, they could get us to all wear bunny suits and dildos on our heads if they wanted us too.




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#12 11 years ago

As long as the ratio between anorexic and obese people is at the level it seems to be nowadays I'm not really worried about advertisements that encourage a more healthy and active lifestyle by claiming that being thin makes you beautiful/succesful etc.




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#13 11 years ago
Vasili;4919536Donutz, your posts are always so huge.

IT's due to social pressure and advertisement that tell me I should act eletist like that. :o

In all seriousness, I start out with what comes to mind and as type along several things cross my mind. All of it I try to translate into a detailed post to give an as accurate picture as possible of my views in order to cotribute to the discussion at hand.

Should I go into politics? I wonder how many people would go "Shut up man, get to the point" and "Yes, he didn't gave a one line answer but when realy can you? Good on him!". =p

Society is infulenced by media, they could get us to all wear bunny suits and dildos on our heads if they wanted us too.

Aslong as they didn't alienated themselves. Ads and other media have to be accepted. While doing so they can introduce new images and such. Just as society itself gradually changes (and thus the media attached to it).

Some of those ads in the video must be typical american, made me go "errr?? what the... haha thatis just weird/sad/wtf?!/whatevr/talktothehand/.../". Which to me confirms ads can't just "sell" everything.

A more concrete example of media propaganda/advertisement would be an campaign of a Dutch politcal party during national elections, I believe it was the VVD (Liberal/Libertarian party). They had an ad which used the symbol of the PvdA (Party of Labour/Labour Party), a rose, and asked it questions, the rose stayed silent and turned 180 degrees in the wind, thus sending out the message "The PvdA knows nothing, stays silent and flip flops"). People felt unconnect to the ad, the type of advertisement wasn't accepted by our society, it seemed like a slly American campaign. People thought "Errr that's nice and all that you accuse an other party of ignoring the questions at hand but what are YOUR points, solutions and views?". Attempting to paint a bad image of your competitor isn't really accepted here, it hasn't worked.

Wait, did I just made a too lenghty post again? I could go on and on if I had to... =p

Hell, why not? What also crossed my mind was the image of men having to be masculine, though and such. How we men are suposed to have a 25+ centimeter penis, or atleast 20centimeters to be taken seriously. Longer is better. Bigger is better. Do I have that perfect penis? No. But I'm not that bothered. But I guess even I have given in to this social view as I would have no objections to having had a bigger penis. But I don't feel insecure either. Some time ago I saw a television item on penisses in society (British program on Dutch public television). The guy showd quite well how men are expected to have a big one, finding out that the "believed avarage lenght" wasn't consistant with the actual avarage penis size. And him interviewing several women who said that their partner should have a small one, medium or large at the very least. One woman said she had a lovely partner who was good looking, nice and all that, did well in bed with forplay and all that, nearly perfect. But his penis was of below avarage size she said so she had to dump him. The guy asked her how size it was, she replied 20 ( or so). He then said that the actual avarage was lower and that his penis was 19 (or so) centimeters long... All hail society and media I guess.

Dumping a partner because the sex ain't good I could understand but simply over penis/breast size or other physical features? :cort:




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#14 11 years ago
Some of those ads in the video must be typical american, made me go "errr?? what the... haha thatis just weird/sad/wtf?!/whatevr/talktothehand/.../". Which to me confirms ads can't just "sell" everything.

Well when you look at it, you actually have people that create specific ads per nationality, age group etc. Ads indeed work, but they have to be made to work.




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#15 11 years ago

I just mute them or flip past them in magazines anyway…annoying they are.




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#16 11 years ago
As long as the ratio between anorexic and obese people is at the level it seems to be nowadays I'm not really worried about advertisements that encourage a more healthy and active lifestyle by claiming that being thin makes you beautiful/succesful etc.

The problem is that these are starting to target younger girls as well, who then assume that just because you are thin means you are successful, and the thinner you are the more successful you are. That's where the problem starts.

Hell, why not? What also crossed my mind was the image of men having to be masculine, though and such. How we men are suposed to have a 25+ centimeter penis, or atleast 20centimeters to be taken seriously. Longer is better. Bigger is better. Do I have that perfect penis? No. But I'm not that bothered. But I guess even I have given in to this social view as I would have no objections to having had a bigger penis. But I don't feel insecure either. Some time ago I saw a television item on penisses in society (British program on Dutch public television). The guy showd quite well how men are expected to have a big one, finding out that the "believed avarage lenght" wasn't consistant with the actual avarage penis size. And him interviewing several women who said that their partner should have a small one, medium or large at the very least. One woman said she had a lovely partner who was good looking, nice and all that, did well in bed with forplay and all that, nearly perfect. But his penis was of below avarage size she said so she had to dump him. The guy asked her how size it was, she replied 20 ( or so). He then said that the actual avarage was lower and that his penis was 19 (or so) centimeters long... All hail society and media I guess.

But that isn't exactly accurate. Penis length is usually quite a taboo subject. However, the attributes contributing to female beauty aren't, or at least they aren't to this degree.

I just mute them or flip past them in magazines anyway…annoying they are.

It's a sad fact of life that most people think that they think better than they actually do.




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#17 11 years ago
Mr. Pedantic;4919864But that isn't exactly accurate. Penis length is usually quite a taboo subject. However, the attributes contributing to female beauty aren't, or at least they aren't to this degree.

I guess the taboo actually does help us men somewhat so that we aren't exposed to penises of above avarage lengt and thickness and thus sending out that image of "perfection" but we all know the social view/pressure of "having a small penis" is there.

But advertisements do quite clearly huge the though, rigit, masculine male image as that of perfection. A man who shows little emotion (that would just be "gay" not?) , who is tall, very sportive and good looking (having the body of a proffesional sportsman with well developed body parts).

If he is portrayed in an other fassion it's often that of a loser or nerd (also loser).




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#18 11 years ago
Admiral Donutz;4919932I guess the taboo actually does help us men somewhat so that we aren't exposed to penises of above avarage lengt and thickness and thus sending out that image of "perfection" but we all know the social view/pressure of "having a small penis" is there. But advertisements do quite clearly huge the though, rigit, masculine male image as that of perfection. A man who shows little emotion (that would just be "gay" not?) , who is tall, very sportive and good looking (having the body of a proffesional sportsman with well developed body parts). If he is portrayed in an other fassion it's often that of a loser or nerd (also loser).

Why is it when guys show emotion, around other guys, it becomes gay? And its veiwed as a major defect? Is it becuase girls can understand it? And then guys say "Oh, well the girl can really "understnad" him, he must be gay!" :confused: This is the part of my gender I dont understand....




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#19 11 years ago
It's a sad fact of life that most people think that they think better than they actually do.

I know I do...and even if I didn't have the degrees on my wall to back it up, I still would. But I digress, I just don't pay much attention to ads...that's all - especially ones that suggest women (or men for that matter) need to act a certain way because some corporation, etc. peddling their crap says we have to in order to "fit in" and be accepted.:beer:




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#20 11 years ago
If he is portrayed in an other fassion it's often that of a loser or nerd (also loser).

Yeah, I don't get that. It seems kind of strange to me that 'normal' people despise and look down upon the people who design your phones, music players, and computers, and other electronics that you 'need'.

(having the body of a proffesional sportsman with well developed body parts).

=p Yeah, we all know what body parts you're talking about...

I guess the taboo actually does help us men somewhat so that we aren't exposed to penises of above avarage lengt and thickness and thus sending out that image of "perfection" but we all know the social view/pressure of "having a small penis" is there.

Well, it's not as 'in your face' as the stereotype of feminine beauty. Due to censorship guidelines you can't really show large penises and such, but you can show beautiful women and their 'perfection' quite easily.