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Emperor Benedictine

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#71 10 years ago

All religions involve beliefs. Not all beliefs involve religion. Lack of belief in something is not a "belief system" anyway.




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#72 10 years ago

Inyri Forge;4810537No, it's not.[/quote]

If you follow Richard Dawkins or other scientists who think they are theologists with authority on the matter, or if you think science is the answer to everything it can become a religion.

[quote=Crazy Wolf;4810448]It still isn't a religion, it has no organization, no absolute rules you must abide by. To me a religion is more than just a "belief system".

Organized religion is what requires those things. In the larger sense however, I consider Deism (or similar beliefs) and atheism religions anyway as they deal with matters beyond our understanding, like God and the afterlife.




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#73 10 years ago

http://forums.filefront.com/pub/237536-religious-discussion.html


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#74 10 years ago
Stryker500;4810561If you follow Richard Dawkins or other scientists who think they are theologists with authority on the matter, or if you think science is the answer to everything it can become a religion.

No it can't. Science will never be a religion, just like atheism will never be a really and physics will never be a religion.




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#75 10 years ago
Inyri Forge;4810576No it can't. Science will never be a religion, just like atheism will never be a really and physics will never be a religion.

Why won't science ever be a religion? Some people certainly behave like it is one and act like those they may criticize do. Certain scientists taking stances on religious matters and using science as a justification for their views further erodes this barrier you claim there to be.




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#76 10 years ago

this isn't Religous disscution thread


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#77 10 years ago

It has been explained to you dozens of times already. Repeating arguments already put forward will serve no purpose.




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#78 10 years ago
Stryker500;4810561In the larger sense however, I consider Deism (or similar beliefs) and atheism religions anyway as they deal with matters beyond our understanding, like God and the afterlife.

Atheists don't have to deal with God and the afterlife simply because both don't exist for them. If you die you won't exist anymore (besides a corpse serving as food for hungry worms).




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#79 10 years ago

Stryker500;4810592Why won't science ever be a religion? Some people certainly behave like it is one and act like those they may criticize do.[/quote]I can see the reference to behaving religiously. Tony plays his play station religiously, or Sarah is religious about her shopping, but that doesn’t necessarily denote that they are actually religious about it. It’s just cheap terminology used to describe one’s persistent interest in any given thing. The term “religiously” doesn’t constitute a real religion by any means. Atheism can be part of religion, say with pagans perhaps, but all by itself, its not possible.

As for science and technology, those areas of study and development affect just about every aspect of your life in one way or another. From the car you drive, to the elevator you ride, to the food you eat. Intentionally avoiding science and technology is not only a mistake, but a lie as well. If you were really against either, you'd toss away everything you own, move to the woods, hunt to eat, and laugh in your self-righteous science free existence.

Stryker500;4810592 Certain scientists taking stances on religious matters and using science as a justification for their views further erodes this barrier you claim there to be.

So basically what you're implying here, is that scientists use religions, or religious affairs to justify their research and development? Or perhaps it’s that people, who are professionals in one form or another, but still just people, have opinions on certain subjects dealing with our world both politically, and socially?

[quote=Inyri Forge;4810597]It has been explained to you dozens of times already. Repeating arguments already put forward will serve no purpose.

Me and several others did this with the same user in the religious discussion thread months ago. Willful disavowal to say the least. Perhaps it is a lost cause, but in the event anyone else is reading this, why not take advantage of the opportunity?




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#80 10 years ago
Sedistix;4810797Me and several others did this with the same user in the religious discussion thread months ago. Willful disavowal to say the least. Perhaps it is a lost cause, but in the event anyone else is reading this, why not take advantage of the opportunity?

I don't need the post padding. I'll leave it to you guys. You're more eloquent than I am anyway. =p