Let's tax tobacco and alcohol? 36 replies

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Mr. Pedantic

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#21 10 years ago
Remember the American prohibition?

Wait...you remember it?! How old are you?

Besides, I thought you liked living in a free country?

Are you saying that because smoking one substance or another is illegal, it means the country is no longer free?




Nittany Tiger Forum Mod

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#22 10 years ago
Anlushac11;4450612Drinking beer and wine WAS the way to stay healthy, partly because beer and ale had healthy properties back then but mostly because they didnt have access to modern water treatment plants to clean and sterilize water.

Wine is still recommended for good kidney function.

Maybe I should start drinking some to prevent my kidney stones :lol:




Mad Cat MkII

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#23 10 years ago

Killer Kyle;4453645Wine is still recommended for good kidney function.

Maybe I should start drinking some to prevent my kidney stones :lol:

that is actually true when consumed in moderate portions, say a glass a day.




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#24 10 years ago

Exactly. It's not an excuse to become an alcoholic.

And I actually don't think drinking wine prevents kidney stones, but I know it does promote good kidney function.

Alcohol is fine. It has some medical benefits. Smoking isn't. It has no medical benefits.




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#25 10 years ago
Of course they have. Alcohol has been around in various forms since before the Bible was written. We're talking ancient, maaan.

You are correct. It is said that beer was invented as a form of "liquid bread" to feed armies. Transporting food and keeping it not spoiled was a big problem for any traveling army. Beer is believed to be the oldest form of alcohol, and it is believed that even the ancient Mesopotamians made the stuff! On topic...I believe that taking away your freedoms to drink alcohol would be devastating, just like it was in the 1930s. In America, we have freedoms to do what we want, if you want to be an alcoholic, so be it. As long as you don't harm others of course. Everyone has to make their own way, and if one thinks that is the path he wants, choose it. Same can be said with smoking as well. Just make sure they know the risks, and the government has done just that.




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#26 10 years ago
Mr.Funsocks;4454031You are correct. Beer is believed to be the oldest form of alcohol, and it is believed that even the ancient Mesopotamians made the stuff!

Don't know why you wrote "it is believed". We have texts (Gilgamesh epos) and artifacts that prove they had beer. Same goes for the Egyptians.




Quetron

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#27 10 years ago

So that means if beer or cigs are taxed, the people demand that as well? Or should a gov demand only certain people pay into the pot, but everybody partakes in the benefits. So why should a "sin tax" be legal, because it's NOT !!! The soul reason a gov exists is to earn money, but they inhand legalise somthing, but yet punish the ones who use it. We have no tax on food here, outlawed, we also have the luxuray tax, how is it legal if a smoker has no insurance but pays a tax that 80% of the others get for free. (we have about 20% smokers here)




AlDaja

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#28 10 years ago

I don’t think it should be taxed. It is bad enough “fat taxes” are seriously considered (probably implemented already) in some states if you by foods that might make you fat. France has or had an “air tax”…thought that couldn’t happen, but if people are stupid enough to let them selves be taxed-to-death so be it. Taxes are hardly used for intended purposes anyhow.




Karst

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#29 10 years ago
Quetron;4450217But here is the deal, why exactly did any gov make tobacco and booze legal ? allmost world wide

Made it legal? With some regional, temporary exceptions, as well as the historic exception marked by the Prohibition (which didn't last long), alcohol and tobacco have been legal across most of the world throughout history.

And that's the main reason why they never could have been effectively outlawed, compared to newer drugs that don't have the same social importance.

But as for the topic at hand: I do agree with taxing tobacco and maybe alcohol to some degree, but for only one reason - making it more difficult for (young) teenagers to buy. Once a person reaches the late teenage years and early adulthood, their paycheck shouldn't decide weather or not they can or can't take tobacco or alcohol.




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#30 10 years ago

Honestly, I'd oppose these types of taxes on principle alone. Not only do I believe that these substances are a personal lifestyle choice, but I also know for a fact that this country (USA) is being taxed into oblivion.

There are already so many taxes that we can't keep track of them all, and even CPA's have a hard time filing error-free tax returns. Worse, all this money goes to fund a bloated government that grows larger by the day. It's time we started repealing some taxes, not creating new ones.