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Hartford, Conn. — Top Democrats on Capitol Hill abandoned Senator Joe Lieberman one by one Wednesday and threw their support to Ned Lamont, the anti-war challenger who defeated him in the primary. But Mr. Lieberman said his conscience demands that he run as an independent in November. “I think it would be irresponsible and inconsistent with my principles if I were to just walk off the field,” Mr. Lieberman said in an interview a day after his loss to the political newcomer in a race that was considered an early referendum on the Iraq war. Top Senate Democrats, including John Kerry and Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts, Harry Reid of Nevada, Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey and Chuck Schumer of New York, said they supported Mr. Lamont as the duly elected choice of Connecticut's Democratic voters. Mr. Reid and Mr. Schumer — the party's Senate leader, and the head of the Democratic Senate campaign committee — said: “The perception was that (Mr. Lieberman) was too close to (U.S. President) George Bush and this was, in many respects, a referendum on the president more than anything else. The results bode well for Democratic victories in November and our efforts to take the country in a new direction.” Mr. Kennedy called Mr. Lamont's victory “a clarion call for change,” and a spokeswoman said Mr. Kennedy planned to campaign for the nominee. Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton reiterated her pledge to back the winner of the primary. She stopped short of calling on Mr. Lieberman to quit the race but urged the senator to “search his conscience and decide what is best for Connecticut and for the Democratic Party.” Mr. Lamont raised no public complaint about Mr. Lieberman's plan to run as an independent, and predicted he would win in November even with Mr. Lieberman on the ballot. “He'll end up splitting the Republican vote,” Mr. Lamont told CNN. “He gets a lot more support from Republicans than he does from Democrats.” Mr. Lieberman showed no signs of backing down, even though the Democrats' withdrawal of support also means he will be starved of money from party sources to again take on the millionaire Mr. Lamont. “The bottom line is that I'm definitely in,” said the 64-year-old three-term senator and former vice presidential nominee. “While I consider myself a devoted Democrat, I am even more devoted to my state and my country.” The final returns from Tuesday's primary showed Mr. Lamont defeating Mr. Lieberman 52 per cent to 48 per cent. On Wednesday, as expected, the Mr. Lieberman campaign delivered two boxes of petitions to the Connecticut secretary of state's office, and aides said they contained more than enough signatures to qualify him for the November ballot. The move would set up a three-way race this fall among Mr. Lamont, Mr. Lieberman and Republican Alan Schlesinger, who has trailed far behind both Democrats in recent polls. Mr. Lieberman said he was not bothered by losing the support of his Democratic colleagues, noting he lost the primary even with their backing. “In the end, the people make up their own minds, and this is going to be a people's campaign,” he said. The defeat put Mr. Lieberman in the familiar role of a go-it-alone politician. He was the first prominent Democrat to openly criticize Former president Bill Clinton's conduct with Monica Lewinsky. His support for the Iraq war and his defence of President Bush also have made him unpopular with members of his own party and gave Mr. Lamont a powerful platform on which to run. Mr. Lieberman's name recognition and moderate politics will draw strong support from independents and Republicans in November, according to Kenneth Dautrich, a public policy professor at the University of Connecticut. “I think Mr. Lieberman is now in the driver's seat,” Mr. Dautrich said, adding that the senator could have “a fairly handy lead” as the campaign begins. One of the biggest challenges will be fundraising, Mr. Dautrich noted. Mr. Lamont is a cable TV entrepreneur who put $4-million of his own fortune into the primary. As the Democrats' nominee, he also will get donations from traditional Democratic sources that might otherwise have contributed to Mr. Lieberman. One strategist, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Mr. Lieberman had about $2-million remaining after the primary race against Mr. Lamont. At a Democratic unity rally Wednesday morning, Mr. Lamont grinned broadly as he took his place with his new Democratic colleagues — most of whom had originally endorsed Mr. Lieberman and campaigned for him. “Nancy, I got to tell you,” he told party chairwoman Nancy DiNardo, “I like being on your team.” Mr. Lieberman said he fired his campaign manager and spokesman, and asked for the resignations of his campaign staff. He planned to hire a long-time aide as manager for the fall and began the search for a new pollster and media consultant. “We did not answer, adequately answer, the distortions of my record on Iraq and my relationship with George Bush, that the Lamont campaign put out,” the senator said, though he insisted he was not blaming campaign workers. Republicans seized on the results to paint Democrats as careless with the country's security. Vice-President Dick Cheney said the race showed there is a significant segment of the Democratic Party that wants to return to “a pre-9/11 mind-set.” “It's an unfortunate development, I think, from the standpoint of the Democratic Party to see a man like Mr. Lieberman pushed aside because of his willingness to support an aggressive posture in terms of our national security strategy,” Mr. Cheney said from Jackson, Wyo. “When we see the Democratic Party reject one of its own — a man they selected to be their vice-presidential nominee just a few short years ago — that would seem to say a lot about the state the party's in today,” he said. Mr. Lieberman's 10,000-vote loss sent shock waves through the local and national Democratic party. It was Mr. Lieberman's first loss in a Connecticut campaign since 1980, and he has long been one of Connecticut's most popular Democrats. He became just the fourth Senate incumbent since 1980 to lose a primary. Mr. Lamont won by hammering away at Mr. Lieberman's support for the Iraq war and accusing him of being too close to Mr. Bush, as evidenced by an incident in which Mr. Bush appeared to plant a kiss on the senator's cheek after his 2005 State of the Union address. Mr. Lamont's campaign also was embraced by liberal bloggers, who saw it as a chance to take down an incumbent and play a bigger role in the Democratic Party. A Quinnipiac University poll released in July showed that 51 per cent of likely voters would support Mr. Lieberman in a three-way race, versus 27 per cent for Mr. Lamont and 9 per cent for Mr. Schlesinger, a lawyer who was formerly a legislator and mayor. However, a CBS News/New York Times exit poll of nearly 2,700 voters on Tuesday found that 61 per cent said Mr. Lieberman should not run as an independent. Though having both Mr. Lieberman and Mr. Lamont on the ballot could split the Democratic vote, Mr. Schlesinger is not considered a major threat. His campaign stumbled in July after it was learned that he used a fake name to gamble at a Connecticut casino and had been sued over gambling debts at two New Jersey casinos. Republican Governor Jodi Rell urged him to drop out of the Senate race, but Mr. Schlesinger called the gambling a “non-issue” and vowed to stay in.

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It looks as if Lieberman can still win and keep his seat, but not as a democrat. For the record, Lieberman supports the war in Iraq, but is a liberal on most other issues. His support of the war was the only thing that made him loose the primary. The Democrats have become too narrow minded in my eyes. They are focusing on one issue(Iraq) and nothing else for the election. The democrats are also going further to the left. They are ridding the moderates and conservatives from the party. This is going to kill them. They will become a party with only left wingers. A party with only left or right winger won't win an election. The republicans are also becoming more focused on issues, but not to the point of the democrats...yet. I do think that if both parties keep becoming more extreme, a 3rd party with more of a central stance will come and take the White house.

So, go Lieberman! Stand up for what you think is right, and hopefully we can see you keep your seat in congress.




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#2 12 years ago

You know...I have respect for Lieberman. I think his democratic party sold him out because he did not recant his statement about Iraq like the rest of his democratic buddies did. For that they made sure the other democratic guy that was running won.




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#3 12 years ago

If I ever ran for Congress, I think I'd try to be an independent. If I could do it without party support, that is.




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#4 12 years ago

I think that this is pretty selfish of Joe Liberman.

It is likely going to cost the democrats an election win. Chances are that this will split the democratic bote, allowing the republicans to win. He needs to know when to concede the loss, and call it quits.




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#5 12 years ago

marvinmatthewI think that this is pretty selfish of Joe Liberman.

It is likely going to cost the democrats an election win. Chances are that this will split the democratic bote, allowing the republicans to win. He needs to know when to concede the loss, and call it quits.

I say hurrah for Joe Liberman. He has the balls to stand up for what he believes in and not bend to the will of his political party. It is good to know there are still politicans who have enough self resepect to go with their beliefs instead of the beliefs of someone else.




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#6 12 years ago
marvinmatthewI think that this is pretty selfish of Joe Liberman. It is likely going to cost the democrats an election win. Chances are that this will split the democratic bote, allowing the republicans to win. He needs to know when to concede the loss, and call it quits.

I think it serves the democrats fine. They get what they deserve. Mr. Lieberman was going to be the next Vice President and only lost by 300 votes in Florida. It is a shame how the democratic party treated him. They will get what they deserve. The split vote will just bring in another republican in the senate. Republicans are scum, but this Lieberman deal proves to me that democrats are even greater scum. The republicans would never do that to one of their own.




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#7 12 years ago
marvinmatthewI think that this is pretty selfish of Joe Liberman. It is likely going to cost the democrats an election win. Chances are that this will split the democratic bote, allowing the republicans to win. He needs to know when to concede the loss, and call it quits.

Selfish? Did you see the margin he lost by? It only makes since he would TALK to the people in this way. Had he lost by a huge margin, rather than this small margin, then I would see no hope for his cause. He is trying to talk to the people who understand what is at stake versus a party, i.e. Democrats using Iraq as a political statement. Lieberman has been a life long Democrat. I think it is a shame that he has been abandoned.




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#8 12 years ago

Yes, but he's taken a view point differnet from nearly his entire party, on the most importaint issue in American polotics.




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#9 12 years ago

I respect him, hes one of the older "FDR" democrats

I think he will do well as an independant


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#10 12 years ago
marvinmatthewYes, but he's taken a view point differnet from nearly his entire party, on the most importaint issue in American polotics.

If so then he would have tanked! The fact that there was around a 4% MARGIN means he may not only get a huge Democrat vote but a Republican vote as well! If his voters were so oppossed to the war then why this small margin? I think what will happen is the Republican voters will say "hey this guy knows the system and wants to stop terrorism" and will vote for him!