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Nemmerle Forum Mod

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#1 12 years ago

I'm running a, project, at my school for the psychology department. Person A who shall remain unnamed asked if anyone could set it up and run it so that's what I'm doing because without too much arrogance that's what I'm good at, talking to people, setting up systems, letting them run. So I draw up a time table for this and get it all sorted out to be off the ground in a few weeks. Then they decide they'd like me to use their technician to set up the website - talk to their technician, tell him what's required. Wait for several months... Website's nearly ready, set up a group of around 15 lower school kids for part of the project, gather the senior team. Have first meeting of lower school group. Talk to Person A, now all of a sudden I and all my staff need mentoring training for the project. This has been a cluster fuck from day one: The design spec they handed out was very broad although with the understanding that I could interpret it however I chose. It omitted a vast load of requirements both legal and procedural that I could really have done with knowing about. And now it's forced me into a position where I have to let down masses of staff because of things I should have been told about months ago and could have had taken care of.

I signed up for this with the understanding that: A| I would be in overall control. However I was assigned a staff I didn't particularly want and have had to wait on them to pull their fingers out. Even when they delivered the goods they were not what I had requested.

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B| That I would be managing this rather than playing mediator and flying around getting qualifications.

So if you're trying to get people to do something for you it might be an idea to mention what you expect from them at the outset. Otherwise they're going to be just a tad pissed off - and by just a tad pissed off I mean you're going to find yourself with no staff and your dick in your hands when crunch time comes.

People need to inform others at the outset of a project what will be required of them. To change your expectations of a person on the fly, to alter with your own convenience. This makes the original requirement of them like a lie and makes you impossible to trust.




pajama_clad_ninja

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#2 12 years ago

dude maybe theyre trying to piss you off, and youre the subject in their psychology experiment




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#3 12 years ago

Ah but what would the independent variable be? It could sort of work if they were running it across a few schools and the temperament of the participant was the iv but there would be too many confounding variables and not much way to measure the result in any case. So on the whole I think it unlikely.




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#4 12 years ago

Not exactly sure what you are trying to say (speaking if this and that person is rather vague) but that's why at the start of any project you have meetings and question rounds. The excellent time to do recaps and ask for convermation: "So if I understood correctly I/we get to do A/B/C and my role will be D/E/F/ My power will be G/H/I?. After the person correct you, and you recapped it again and get the anser "Yes, exactly" yhere shouldn't be any vague spots or misunderstandings or things that were not mentioned. If somebody comes back later then and claims he/she forgot to mention important aspects of the project then he or she is fully responsible and dependin on what control they have over you can go and screw themselves letting you finish the job as first agreed on atleast be flexible enough to do a conession (they afterall screwed up not you).