Lithuania forced to shut down reactor. 35 replies

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emonkies

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#1 11 years ago

Lithuania was forced to shut down a old Chernobyl type reactor under part of a EU agreement due ot the reactor type being considered a unsafe design.

Lithuania shuts down Soviet-built nuclear reactor - USATODAY.com

My question is. Is the EU going to help them build a new reactor to help provide cheap electricity? That reactor supplied 70% of all of Lithuania's energy needs.

A big country like USA, Russia, UK, France can absorb energy costs a little bit easier.

Can Lithuania?




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#2 11 years ago

I think they should. I didn't think anyone used the Chernobyl design anymore.


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#3 11 years ago

They should've turned it off when they had the alternative ready.

Also in the article the Lithuanians say they upgrades it to be more safe, wouldn't a investigation of the safety be done before turning it off and destroying it?




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#4 11 years ago

I'm surprised it wasn't turned off sooner. They apparently didn't learn much from Chernobyl. However, I doubt the EU will help build a new reactor. They're too much talk, not enough action.




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#5 11 years ago
Sadim-Al-Bouncer;5185965I'm surprised it wasn't turned off sooner. They apparently didn't learn much from Chernobyl. However, I doubt the EU will help build a new reactor. They're too much talk, not enough action.

The thing learned from Chernobyl? Chernobyl wasn't a failure of the reactor type, it was a failure of the staff who were fucking around with it and were too chickenshit to tell anyone who had any chance of fixing it. The reactors type-RBMK are fine, if a bit dated.




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#6 11 years ago

EU should be forced to build a new one before shutdown.If they order it shut down, it really cripples an already crippled econemy. Its cold over there, and what they are doing is the same as economic sanctions.......




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#7 11 years ago
jackripped;5186222EU should be forced to build a new one before shutdown.If they order it shut down, it really cripples an already crippled econemy. Its cold over there, and what they are doing is the same as economic sanctions.......

Why? The shutdown was a condition for Lithuania's membership in the EU, and the EU has paid 820 000 000 € to cover the costs of shutting down the 25 year old reactor a few years before it would have been closed due to old age. Lithuania had quite a few years to solve the electricity problem and as far as I know, they are not going to be without electricity now that the reactor finally has been shut down.




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#8 11 years ago

As far as I can remember, the people working at the Chernobyl plants got orders from the military to do some experiments with all the safety features turned off. I'm sure someone could just check the Wiki on this, I'm busy at the moment.




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#9 11 years ago
Huffardo;5186280Why? The shutdown was a condition for Lithuania's membership in the EU, and the EU has paid 820 000 000 € to cover the costs of shutting down the 25 year old reactor a few years before it would have been closed due to old age. Lithuania had quite a few years to solve the electricity problem and as far as I know, they are not going to be without electricity now that the reactor finally has been shut down.

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They weren't forced to close it down, they could have refused and waited a bit longer to meet the requirements to join the EU if they so desired. The EU has been so kind to give finantial aid to shut the thing down. The country also could have started (preparing) for a new reactor, as the shut down (be it a little earlier due to wanting to join or when the reactor would have been written off due to old age a bit later) didn't happen over night.

What I do agree on, is that Lithuania should try and be energy independant but it would be a bit easy to "blame" the EU for this. =/ It would be if they suddenly got a phonecall along the lines of "Hey there, Lithuania? That reactor you have? It's goign to have to be shut down tomorrow, bye! BEEP BEEP BEEP".




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#10 11 years ago

Well l just think with the world pollution and poverty, that making that problem worse is just stupid, and thats what has happened here, the power grid will now have more power gridded into it via coal burning, great.The people will pay more for power that should be cheaper.This will cause even more stress on an already stressed econemy. The EU is a govening body, and should have thef orsight to realise what a shut down of this nature does. It should also have a reactor built to replace the old one before its shut down, the responsible thing to do. You cannot blame lithuania for its economic issues that have stopped it from building a new one, the idea of being in a group of states combined for strength isnt showing through here on a human scale at all. Why havent the EU had a new one built ? Surely they can see that children are going to suffer this winter ? Parents pay more for power its a flow on effect. It is the responsibility of the EU if they have taken control of such things, and decisions. It is them that have the combined funds to do it fast. If the EU ran like the United States of America, lol, united, it would run a whole lot better.

As an EU member they should be treated as brothers not economic enemies, as it is now, how can anyone guarrantee buisness men are not behind this shut down ? This type reactor is not unsafe unless missused, like chernobel was. People wonder why the UK wouldnt sign onto the EU, well heres one reason, the EU can order your country to do things that hurt your own people while offering no solution, kinda remind me of greenies, and at the same time, place your country into a privatised industry, [ power ] where none of the big players are based in your own country, so the country now has an overhead forever. Clever buisness people in the EU...... The EU is not one country, yet it tries to disolve soverin rights of independant countries, if your gunna sign up for that, your gunna get burned, is the message the EU has put out.