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#21 15 years ago
NemmerleAnd you know he had nothing to hide how? How were the officers following him to know that? It's all very easy for you to sit here and say he had nothing to hide, and maybe he didn't but that's not really relevant anymore, he ran from police and he got what was coming to him. So anyone running from the police deserves five shots, execution style? Anyone running from the police, who by the way aren't wearing police clothing, deserves to die? Are you trying to suggest that Muslims are more predisposed towards acts of violence and terrorism here; or that it would have been more justified if he were a muslim? I mean, like I give a fuck what religion the man was. Yeah, I am saying Muslums are more likely to be terrorists causers. Got a problem with me not being politically correct? It is true though, and I dare anyone to deny that fact. I am not saying they are good Muslums, nor that they represent the religion as a whole. Nor am I saying that people from other religions aren't involved in terrorists activity, like that idiot from Oklahoma who blew up a building with a bunch of children in it. Picture this: You're chasing a man you think might have a bomb, barely a hands breadth from him, yelling at him to stop, and he dives for the floor. You think you see him reaching for a toggle, your heart skips a beat and you fall on-top of him, you unload five rounds into his head before he can pull the toggle. Now there's nothing wrong with that, it might be regrettable but it simply had to be done.

I don't think it had to be done, and I think that there could have been a better way to go around this without killing the guy. Whatever, this is going no where, and I doubt anyone here is going to change anyones mind.




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#22 15 years ago

X-CSo anyone running from the police deserves five shots, execution style?

You're damn right they do.

Anyone running from the police, who by the way aren't wearing police clothing, deserves to die?

After they've been challenged and ignored it, yes.

Yeah, I am saying Muslims are more likely to be terrorists causers. Got a problem with me not being politically correct?

No I'm just wondering where in the chase the officers got a chance to pause and say "Are you a Muslim? Because if you are it's alright for us to give you five in the head."

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#23 15 years ago

The guy panicked and ran, for the police it must have looked as if he wanted to bomb the train. It was an accident, there is not really more to say about it.




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#24 15 years ago
MihailSo why did they think he was a "terrorist"? Especially since they shot in 5 times in the head while he was trying to get on the train.

I thought they saw/detected some sort of explosives on him and that was why they shot. Anyway, not seeing any explosives...and shooting him in the head five times...seems a bit severe--could not they have aimed for a leg? Upper torso? Or hell, his ass? That's a big target and would have "slowed him down" if he was running from authorities...




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#25 15 years ago

mistaking is human, shooting 5 times in somebody's head is not.. Just like Nordicvs said, aim for something else, or don't aim if you'r a poor shot.




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#26 15 years ago

By shooting a suspected suicide bomber in the head (hitting the brain in particular) relaxes the muscles, thereby preventing them from detonating a bomb in their death throes, shooting them anywhere else would probably result in the bomb being detonated either by the suspect setting it off voluntarily or involuntary i.e through muscle spasm. It had to be done, suicide bombers want to kill people. It is their [color=black]raison d'être. It's a case of kill or be killed, there are no ways around it. [/color] The police had to make a split second decision, something that will live with them for the rest of their days, i think that is punishment enough.




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#27 15 years ago
X-COkay THE POLICE WERE DRESSED IN NORMAL CLOTHES PEOPLE! Seriously, now that I got more facts, it is even more stupid that the guy got killed the way he did. If some guys come up to you in a subway, with normal clothes with guns and try to target you, I would say most people might make a run for it. People might stop as well, but what would happen if they mugged you and killed you anyway? The police who shot the guy needs to be jailed.

Agreed, if somebody would be yelling at me to stop and i would spot a gun i would try to run (exception would be if they would push the damn thing unde rmy nose obviously). Now if somebody would approach me with badge in his hands and say "Undercover police, stop right there sir" then ofcourse i would stop. Besides he man was already forced on the ground when they shot him, if you have a suspect down on the ground and are sitting on top of him with three (two?) man you have no reason to shoot the suspect unless he seems to be reaching for a trigger. There is a VRY BIG difference with officers in unifroms yelling at you to stop and drawing their guns if you seem to ignore them/walk away and pllain cloth three police offers jumping on you, wokring you to the ground and shoot 5 bullets into you...




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#28 15 years ago

ahhh this again.

1. dumbass ran from the cops at a time of chaos. in a train station :rolleyes: 2. wearing suspicious clothing. 3. don't run if you have nothing to hide or else, good bbbbb bye. 4. Good job Police. well done.

1. if suspect did have a bomb the passive libbies would be crying bloody murder about the Police. 2. if suspect had a bomb many people would be dead. 3. You crybabies want it to work both ways. too funny. 4. Can I be on your Monday morning quarter back show... pleaseeee?




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#29 15 years ago

Well, you'd have to expect this. London is a city where everyone is on high alert, and just a day earlier they were bombed again. To run from the police when asked to stop, and then jump over the till area where you pay and bolt for a train, you can't take any chances if he's running for a train. He could blow himself up. It was a pretty dumb move to run from the police when you know that the city is extremely edgy. If I was one of those policemen then I would have done the same. Why take the risk?




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#30 15 years ago
Yeah, I am saying Muslums are more likely to be terrorists causers.

No, they aren't.

Got a problem with me not being politically correct?

Yea, I do.

It is true though, and I dare anyone to deny that fact.

Chechnya. Ku Klux Klan. Nazi Party. Muslims are not more likely than any other group to commit acts of terrorism.

I am not saying they are good Muslums, nor that they represent the religion as a whole. Nor am I saying that people from other religions aren't involved in terrorists activity, like that idiot from Oklahoma who blew up a building with a bunch of children in it.

Timothy McViegh is a prime example. He was in the U.S. Army and after reading Nazi literature he decided he hated America. The dude was American, and Christian. Mack