Man's Inner Nature? 63 replies

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#61 16 years ago

Let me say this again, because I don't think some people understood it the first time:

[color=red]There is no Satan![/color]

All of the previous philosophy "lesson" you gave me is worthless because it assumed the existence of Satan. I do not believe in Satan. I very much doubt you can prove to me that Satan exists. Your quote from Thales of Miletus made no sense, because what it said wasn't logical anyway. If it wasn't logical in the first place, how can it be proof that logic doesn't always work? Darkness is the absence of light, but there is no independent source of darkness that actually "competes" again light. When you turn on a flashlight and shine it into the night, does the darkness struggle against the light? No, the light flows freely. Evil is a human misinterpretation of good. (1) Goodness doesn't always mean what humans think is in their best interest, (2) That which a human designates as evil is not really evil at all. Just because it causes much pain and suffering in human terms doesn't mean that it didn't have a higher purpose. Pain and suffering are necessary so that these "training grounds" of life don't continue forever. People die because they have to! Otherwise they would live forever and never leave the training grounds. Pure evil does not exist, because no evil exists. The concept of "evil" I suspect is a method to control the masses: when people see a thing deemded to be "evil," they attack it out of fear. It's a good thing that we don't govern ourselves by theological definitions of good and evil.




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#62 16 years ago

Cataphractis, believing that satan does not exist is your business. As I have said, I do not widh to debate religion with you. However, you have just stated that evil does not exist and that somehow goodness is responsible for the murder of millions. As for Thales, his argument was meant to show that what is logical is not always the truth. Don't know why you didn't get that. "Evil is a human misinterpretation of good"? HUH???? So, goodness is responsible for those atrocities somehow? Is God the one who really did them? "That which a human designates as evil is not really evil at all." Huh???? "Pure evil does not exist, because no evil exists. The concept of "evil" I suspect is a method to control the masses."??? Huh???? The concept of good and evil existed long before the Spanish Inquisition, ya know. If it's not evil to murder millions, then what is it? Really really bad? Kinda bad? Goodness? You seem to have an issue with the word more than the concept. As I said, I do not wish to discuss religion with someone who does not believe in God. It makes as much sence as debating the cosmos with someone who still believes the geocentric theory. It is interesting though, to know that the concept of good and evil is religious in nature, however. Adios.




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#63 16 years ago

I DO BELIEVE IN GOD, NUMBNUTS! Lol.




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#64 16 years ago

EDIT: I DO BELIEVE IN GOD, NUMBNUTS! Lol.

OK, maybe I went a little too far and over-explained my theology so as to make myself look stupid: There is a God. God has a will, which is an extension of his love for us and want for us to be happy. God does not like people to not act according to his will. God wants us to love him and each other. But God's love for us prevents him from punishing us. I guess you could call "evil" that which is against his will. But what is in accordance with his will? I believe this is the the life that makes one most happy. This is what "living life to the fullest" means. "Living life to the fullest" doesn't mean going out and having orgies or massacring people, or anything like that. Those things upset us, and bad deeds eventually come back to give us pain.