No god=No morality? 52 replies

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Junk angel

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#21 11 years ago

There's really no sense in talking to you, is there? You always have to start your preaching, now actually with threats that are found in your scriptures.

Try being in a rotating car that jukes around for at least 30 metres in a duststrom before stopping to move.

It cures most feelings of a godly being. Or it can entice them--who knows.




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#22 11 years ago
jeff & eddie;3647268Morality is defined by religious texts. Specifically what I am refering too, are the most iinfluencial "moral laws" in recorded history. The 10 commandments. Everyone's behavior is in some way, carved by these. If atheists really didn't believe in a God, we'd see more criminals, more perversions and deviants amock.

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Oh eddie, you amuse me. You're like a naive child that deserves a pat on the head. :)

I imagine everybody involved with witch hunts and the Crusade stayed true to those commandments. With the exception of bloodshed, wacky accusations, and imperialistic actions. ;)

Although there are still more Godless "Chos" running around, readily influenced by the media, liberal values, at least they use their brain..sometimes.

Does Pat Robertson turn you on?




§pîrîT~(†)~Rèvërê

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#23 11 years ago
wraithcat;3647337There's really no sense in talking to you, is there? You always have to start your preaching, now actually with threats that are found in your scriptures. Try being in a rotating car that jukes around for at least 30 metres in a duststrom before stopping to move. It cures most feelings of a godly being. Or it can entice them--who knows.

I would actually look forward to that day. Better in heaven, then here on Earth. One could say i'm just here to show someone I deserve more than what I've already been given..




Junk angel

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#24 11 years ago

heaven? After that I still jog around on good mother earth :-d

just try to understand that there are peopel (a majority in my country actually) that don't understand the belief into an all powerfull puff of smoke.




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#25 11 years ago
jeff & eddie;3647268Morality is defined by religious texts.

According to whom?




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#26 11 years ago

Actually some Harvard guy found that morality is actually genetic to an extent. Just thought I'd throw that out there. If you want the link, I can try to get it. It was in the NYT.

Nietzsche dealt with a lot of this, but he concluded that Christian morality binds us to society and crap, and is just a bunch of weak hogwash.




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#27 11 years ago

Yes, Richard Dawkins included that in his book "the god delusion", morals are partly genetic, partly what your parents/teachers/friends teach you. In evolutionary terms, it was more beneficial to be liked in the community, and therefore have a better chance of finding a wife/husband than to simply survive better by taking other people's food.




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#28 11 years ago
jeff & eddie;3647268Morality is defined by religious texts. Specifically what I am refering too, are the most iinfluencial "moral laws" in recorded history. The 10 commandments. Everyone's behavior is in some way, carved by these. If atheists really didn't believe in a God, we'd see more criminals, more perversions and deviants amock. Although there are still more Godless "Chos" running around, readily influenced by the media, liberal values, at least they use their brain..sometimes.

:lol:

What about Hinduism? Are all Hindus criminals? Then there's Buddhism as well...




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#29 11 years ago

More often then not, your repentance and sense of morality is not so much regret for the ill you have done, as it is fear of the ill that may happen to you in consequence. Checks and balances. Look at all the religious icons who commit sexual abuse on children. Clearly morality, is not exclusive to the religious. Consider child sex abuse research that shows the second best predictor for offenders is a conservative religiosity, accompanied by parental belief in traditional male-female roles. The first best predictor of abuse is alcohol or drug addiction in the father. - (Brown and Bohn, 1989; Finkelhor, 1986; Fortune, 1983; Goldstein et al, 1973; Van Leeuwen, 1990) "Sexual Abuse in Christian Homes and Churches", by Carolyn Holderread Heggen, Herald Press, Scotdale, PA, 1993 p.73) Reject the assumption that god is necessary to making morality relevant. The argument is as irrelevant as it is illogical.




jeff & eddie

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#30 11 years ago

'Dreadnought[DK;3647397']According to whom?[/quote]

The 10 commandments are the most fundamental aspects of human morality. BILLIONS of people adhere to them. Many governments have been molded by these as well. The united states and its consitution is no different.

[quote=Rich19;3648393]:lol:

What about Hinduism? Are all Hindus criminals? Then there's Buddhism as well...

No where did I say that. However one can look at their society and come to the conclusion it's still several decades behind the times. Regardless, their law come from translations of the 10 commandments.