Old school pimp
10th February 2004
I'm wondering. With the rise of 'anti-gore' and 'anti-violence' laws and petitions trying to be passed, have we seen the bloodiest games? I hear all the time about Soldier Of Fortune 2 being THE bloodiest game. Ummm. I think it's not, and also, it could've been A LOT [oh boy, so much more] more violent and offensive. I thought it was pretty childish actually. I'm not trying to pull any punches here. That's what I think. I think SOF2 was lame. GTA3, GTA:VC, and GTA:SA are, in my opinion, not very well polished and the violence, [weak stuff] is trying to be 'real' with the carjackings and whores, but GTA WASN'T MADE TO BE 'REALISTIC'. So before I go ranting off, I pose a question to the forums: Have we seen the bloodiest games to date? Will the new trying-to-be-passed laws change games for the worse? I'm not saying 'ohh, they're cutting violence, next who knows?,' I'm saying that somethings in the future may be cut jsut because, well some people get on a roll, and a lot of bad things could happen for the industry. My personal opinion, I'll let my 8 year old watch R and NC-17 movies, and play M and AO games. As long as he knows the difference and we still take walks in the park. My kids will 'yes sir, no sir' me. I've been thinking about it a lot. My kids are gonna be whiney, snot-nosed brats with cell phones. I think that parents don't spend any quality time with their kids, and when johnny starts listening to Eninem and Marilyn Manson, they don't blame themselves, they blame other people. Hell, if my kids did that stuff, who cares? Let em' be. As long as they still have respect for others and are literate, I don't think I'll care. I know that mentally I am still somewhat un-developed in my emotional quadrant [listen to me talk] and I am still developing feelings, but that's how I think I'll raise my spawn. What about the games? I don't want violent video games/console/pc/etc to die because some weak-ass parent can't teach their child right from wrong. The violence in video games is weak and watered down as it is. It hasn't reached an even offensive level. It hasn't matured, like the games industry. Give it time and screw the regulations. Let the blood hit to floor. [Eh too dramatic, but I got my questions and point across I think. I love teh gore!]
President of Novistrana
19th January 2003
Doubtful, corporations are what control a capitalists nation's goverment, as long as theres a market for violent games, there will be violent games sold.
7th December 2003
I dont't really care much about violence in videogames. The only problem I see with this debate is that honest programmers are driven into ruin by governments who don't know shit about videogames and only try to be as opportunistic as possible. It is up to the players/parents of the players to decide wether a game is good or not.
I'm too cool to Post
5th August 2004
What must be remembered is they are video games. You are just shooting pixels, nothing more, nothing less. Mack
I didn't make it!
Wrong Mack, they are brainwashing our youth to turn into serial killers and rapists.
7th November 2003
mack is right, but thats just me talking... just bits and bytes writin so that it forms what you see on your screen..
Lord of the Peach
19th April 2004
KoЯsakoffmack is right, but thats just me talking... just bits and bytes writin so that it forms what you see on your screen..
Yet a few kids can't detrmine the difference between reality and video games. Then there are millions of parents who don't keep track of what their kids buy and play. I think every person who buys an M-rated game has to sign a waver that the publishers are held harmless from lawsuits due to the game's content. I mean taking 2 minutes to read and sign your name on a waver is not that hard.
Voice of joy and sunshine
26th May 2003
As long as we can mod games there's going to be gore in games and that's the way I like it.
More responsibility needs to be placed upon the parents and the stores. The way I see it when the Publisher or Developer gets the game rated by ESRB that's their responsibility, it's the responsibility of the store to sell it only to the people who it should be sold to and it's the responsibility of the parents to make sure their kids only get the games appropriate to their age range.
Seeing the sheer violence some younger children express when playing games leads me to the conclusion not of poor ratings for games but of poor parenting and bad store policy.
The way it should work in my opinion is like this: If the devs or whoever don't get it rated then they don't get to sell it; If the store sells it to someone without ID who is underage then they get fined a lot and can't sell games anymore;
And the parents should damn well bring up their children the right way or we'll take them away.
Bad parenting, not bad experiences is to blame.
I'm too cool to Post
5th August 2004
Pethegreat™Yet a few kids can't detrmine the difference between reality and video games. Then there are millions of parents who don't keep track of what their kids buy and play. I think every person who buys an M-rated game has to sign a waver that the publishers are held harmless from lawsuits due to the game's content. I mean taking 2 minutes to read and sign your name on a waver is not that hard.
We don't require that to be done with movies or books. I mean, the censorship is pointless. It is the parent's responsiblity, not the publisher's or developer's. Mack
I'm too cool to Post
17th September 2003
X-CWrong Mack, they are brainwashing our youth to turn into serial killers and rapists.
Wow! If you think that then you are retarded. How is it brainwashing? God, it's JUST A GAME!