i was meaning the 50,000 or so death you Americans have every year from guns.
Jeff is a mean boss
28th July 2002
what about the 100,000+ we have from automobiles, or the thousands that die from smoking (willingly!!!) A lot overdose on drugs aswell
drugs??:Puzzled: there are illegal so no point in bring that on, and smoking? they are idiots.
Jeff is a mean boss
28th July 2002
Guns are dangerous, but they are not dangerous without people behind them
ANZACSASwell i see it as, no gun no death.you give the kids a gun he can kill people,you can buy ammo for the guns at bloody places like target for god sakes. thats just stupid right there. no i know i cant change the way people think about guns, nor am i trying to, but you must see that there are bad in the wrong hands.
I think you're missing an important fact here bro' . Nobody GIVES these kids a gun. They're not even old enough to legally POSESS a handgun, much less own one! They either steal them, or buy them out of the trunk of a car from someone who has already done the stealing for them! If accompanied by an adult who is teaching them firearms saftey...fine, But they have NO business having access to weapons that they often steal from irresponsible parents or relative, who don't keep them locked in a secure place. I don't mean a gun cabinet either, the glass it too easily broken, I mean a gun SAFE! Anyone who owns firearms needs to realize a big responsibility come with the right to keep and bear arms. Keep them secured well enough so kids or burglars can't get to them...something sadly too many people don't do. I don't have kids, but I have gun safes for the simple fact that if someone breaks in when I'm not home...they can't get my weapons unless they are a professional locksmith...or have access to high explosives. Not a likely senerio
46 and 2, are just ahead of me
23rd September 2004
Artie BuccoWelcome to eight years ago man. Middle Schoolers pulled something of in Jonesboro, Arkansas
Huh, I was unaware that had happened. I'm sure things like this happened, but what I meant by "now its the middle school students" was just the relation to the alleged columbine plot that happened recently.
To think of someone coming to school with a gun and killing people at 11 is sickening. I suppose anyone can kill at any time, but these two, as well as the ones involved in the recent plot don't think of other options when they have been bullied or "treated bad" for years.
I know i've had my fair share of having some hate towards teachers and other students, but to actually come to school and kill people is something out of a movie, fiction...not reality. Bullying is just part of it, hell, there were times when I bullied others, but the problem is just the incompetency of some teenagers that don't know better solutions to problems.
Angsty teenagers and readily-available guns.
God Bless America.
this is one of the reasons I hate living in america, the fear that that will happen
Hello all, it has been quite a long time since I last wrote to these forums. Couple of weeks back I was "closed" at the army for 4 weeks because we had this training camp and there was an influence that broke out so I had to stay in bed for 8 days at garrison's health station (and it wasn't nice, I can assure you that). Couple of other weekends I just haven't had enough interest to browse these forums through as there's always so many unread posts in interesting topics and I have had some other little things to do.
But now I'm back to provide my own opinion and information for topics that interest me (for example, US politics & politics in general). But to the point:
JeffroMost of the time they have no idea the child is a having a problem at school, because the child never says a word about it or lies about it.[/QUOTE] That is why the communication between the school and parents must be improved by increasing meetings with parents & school teachers, calling home how their kid is doing at school etc. Close contact & cooperation between these two parties is more than just advisable, it's really important tool in solving the problems that child encounter at school, even at home.S.T.A.L.K.E.R.if you truly want to kill someone, you will do it, gun or no gun
But with gun it's much easier and safer to kill a person that with a knife or baseball bat, you have to remember that. And like said many times earlier in these forums: cars or cigarettes aren't meant to kill or wound people, they have their clear functions. "Cars & smokes kill people too, ban them" - argument is getting old.
[quote=Fez Boy]Angsty teenagers and readily-available guns.
God Bless America.
You should put more effort to your posts than this :Puzzled:
Voice of joy and sunshine
26th May 2003
Lethal force must ultimately remain in the hands of the citizens for democracy to have even the most basic of meanings. All the time that a government is the only entity with the option to kill it dictates its decisions, and whether the people wish to say yes or no is besides the point, their consent is meaningless. You can say that a government makes the gift of life conditionally to the citizen, that it says 'I make with you a bargain that I shall not kill you and you shall do as I say' but that is not democracy, it's slavery pure and simple.