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Flash525

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#1 10 years ago

A potential problem, that few seem to really care about. It is no secret that fuel costs are going up (again), what a lot of people don't think about though, is all the 'little' things. Oil, at some point in our future, is going to run out. Oil isn't just used for fueling cars, but also used for creating paint, plastic bags, rubber, TV's, DVD Players, Mobile Phones, Game Consoles... I really could go on and on. Oil is used to create Plastic. Plastic is such a common item, that it is worrying to think that one day, there will be none. Warhammer 40,000 will turn to Metal or Nothing, all bags will be paper, and anything that has a case, or frame, will have to be Metal instead of plastic. At the moment, we are only hearing about the Fuel prices going up, yet at some point (probably not in our life time) people will be worrying about one hell of a lot more. I was going to write a LOT more than this, but most of which I have forgotten. If and when it comes back to me, I'll be sure to add.




Penguin_Unit

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#2 10 years ago

The oil prices really can't be helped when you have organizations like OPEC who can screw you over simply by raising the prices, and when you try to drill for oil to help lower it, the environmentalists will get all over you. There really isn't much of a solution to the problem, except for alternative sources, which is not just a walk in the park...




Karst

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#3 10 years ago

Very true, it makes you realize just how absurd the OECD demands for higher oil production are. Yes, let OPEC increase their oil output, so it can be used even faster, and runs out even sooner! China, India, South America, maybe even Africa, will have a hugely increasing demand for oil. And none but the most grim environmentalists can get a certain satisfaction from the prospect of it running out. It won't be pretty. Most likely, we will see a further switch back to coal as it runs out....another finite fossil fuel.

Even if large, previously uncharted reserves are found, it will eventually run out. Oil takes millions of years to "grow" back. There will be a point when there won't be anymore oil, and some generation -one of the next, I daresay- will have to deal with it. It remains a sad fact that even though known reserves are dwindling, people are not only not thinking about the time "after oil", but are encouraging even greater output to feed the world's rising demand.

What must that generation think of us, who were simply not willing to waste a thought to anything more long-term than what the next trip to the gas station will cost.

Penguin_Unit;4384710The oil prices really can't be helped when you have organizations like OPEC who can screw you over simply by raising the prices, and when you try to drill for oil to help lower it, the environmentalists will get all over you.

All OPEC do is deliver what we want them too. It's unsurprising that they choose to profit hugely from it. It's not their price fixing that is the problem, but their customer's greed.




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#4 10 years ago

If we could figure out how to use water the same way as oil, it would solve plently of problems




AlDaja

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#5 10 years ago

Oil is what makes the world go round. OPEC and other oil producing nations know this. As Karst hit on greed does to, unfortunately. Not surprising that certain OPEC nations are encouraging Venezuela’s “nut-job” to harass Brazil, as they have recently found one of the worlds largest oil reserves…not a problem really, except Brazil is a close ally with the US…so if OPEC looses American interests…well you get the picture. Unfortunately, alternative means currently available are often more costly and damaging to the environment (corn ethanol, for example) and others are still on hypothetic drawing boards or in the minds of future developers not yet born, so to speak…so at the moment oil is all we have realistically. The US made the decision during the early 60’s to exploit foreign oil and as a result we allowed our own refineries, research and oil expeditions to fall by the wayside due to environmental lobbing and cost concerns. It’s only now we are seriously looking at oil independence – its just we’ve left so much “red tape” and politics in the way.




rakattack

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#6 10 years ago

the gas prices here in CA are averaging $4.50




AlDaja

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#7 10 years ago
rakattack;4384903the gas prices here in CA are averaging $4.50

So I’ve heard. Cheapest gas in Metro-Denver is in Brighton at about $3.74. Elsewhere its hovers around $4.00. Supposed to climb over $5.00 a gallon come July 4th. The public transit system is already feeling the pinch; they’ve had to raise fares to keep the buses going…not really working out to well. Many small business and grocery outlets have been hurting or going belly up as people have cut back on spending, I suspected it’s the same just about everywhere.




Karst

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#8 10 years ago
rakattack;4384903the gas prices here in CA are averaging $4.50

In Europe, prices of 1.30€ a liter are not uncommon. That's about 8$ a gallon.

But really, complaints about prices are misguided. There's no way prices will ever really go down again. We can blame the oil industry, OPEC, or our own governments, but what it comes down to is that oil is not going to last much longer. Instead of looking around for alternatives, people complain about the prices, want them to go down so they can continue using oil like there's no tomorrow. Obviously that has the exact opposite effect because increased demand raises the price. It's what OPEC have always been saying: "the prices aren't our fault, it's just supply and demand." Although obviously they have a fair amount of freedom, they realize that in these years, they will have to set prices higher and higher to delay the inevitable end of the age of oil.




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#9 10 years ago

I'm putting off getting a car and driving. I don't even have my license yet, and I really don't care because I don't want to have to deal with skyrocketing oil prices. I'll be living on campus and making use of my bike.




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#10 10 years ago

Oil prices in the Uk are ridiculously high being around £1.25 ($2.50) per litre and is going to be raised even higher in the future due to our arsehole of a primeminister Gordon brown deicides to increase tax on it again !. futhermore the raises in oil apparently see no sign of slowing down apparently as 'market analysts' apparently predict that oil will double to around $250 per barrel. however I'm entirely sure on the accuracy of these statistics