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M A S S I V

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#1 10 years ago

Today I saw a movie called "Occupation 101," and it was about the Palestinian-Israeli conflict both in the past and today, and where its going in the future. I would like to know everyone's thoughts about this...do u all think Israel is right taking over the land or do u think they should leave and give it back to the "inhabitants" of the land which were Palestinian?




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#2 10 years ago

Israelis and Palestinians have equal claim to all the lands, as far as I'm concerned. Palestinians just need to grow up, stop killing school children and maybe that will happen.




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#3 10 years ago

IMO it belongs to Palastenians. Arab Jews were already living fine with Christians and Muslims. The world was changing politically at the time when that massive influx of Ashkenazis started(Pre-WWII) And even after WWII, the fact was you couldnt create a country for another person out of another people's lands, it will never work.




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#4 10 years ago

I think they should just get along with each other. As soon as one side starts making claims, conflicts arise, even though it theoretically could be used without problems by everyone. Unfortunately, there are idiots that find it necessary to build walls through farmland, or randomely fire rockets at "enemy" territory. If they would actually make an effort to peace it really could be a lot easier. Right now creating a Palestinian state would be the best step, and from then on they can work on greater cooperation.




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#5 10 years ago
-DarthMaul-;4044030IMO it belongs to Palastenians. Arab Jews were already living fine with Christians and Muslims. The world was changing politically at the time when that massive influx of Ashkenazis started(Pre-WWII) And even after WWII, the fact was you couldnt create a country for another person out of another people's lands, it will never work.

I concur, the entire idea of creating the state was fubar, and the current situation is a result of the zionist agenda at the time. It doesn't help that Israel currently does not admit to the mistakes made in the early days, and continues to annex space where it deems fit.

The situation will not improve as long as the refugees and their spawn live in deplorable conditions, looking for something to hate, something to fight.




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#6 10 years ago
EO Violation;4043959Palestinians just need to grow up, stop killing school children and maybe that will happen.

Because surely all palestianians do that. And those mean palestianians are then being harassed by brave Israeli soldiers. :rolleyes:

I don't think it matters whose land it is, but what will happen in the future. People should take a seat on the peace table and discuss how things can be improved from now on.

The two-state solution would give each respective party their own power of control, but then the question would be, which land goes to which government.

The biggest obstacles for peace talks right now are the respective parties' right wing fractions: Hamas/Fatah and the Israeli government/army.

Also, the vote.. uh.. doesn't leave many options. Perhaps a moderator, in accordance with the thread starter, could add something along the lines of neither, both and other.




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#7 10 years ago
I don't think it matters whose land it is

Why do u say that? It was Palestinian land, and now its owned by the Jews. Palestine is the only country in the world today that's being occupied controlled in every aspect by another country. It was their land...they have been there for many many years, and now the Jews start flowing in and then take over. It's like if a bunch of Mexicans kept coming over the border and then after a certain amount of years they decide to take over certain parts of U.S land. Does anyone know what I'm trying to say? When the Palestinians were running the country both the Jews and Palestinians were babysitting each others kids...and then when the Jews started taking over, they started kicking out all the Palestinians (Muslim, Christian, and even Jewish Palestinians living there because they had arab cultures and language). WTF

P.S. In know way am I siding with anyone...I'm just putting my opinion out there and would like some feedback...could this be the reason for our troubles in the Middle East?




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#8 10 years ago

WhiteShark;4044115Because surely all palestianians do that. And those mean palestianians are then being harassed by brave Israeli soldiers. :rolleyes:[/quote]

Clearly.

[quote=M A S S I V;4044345]Why do u say that? It was Palestinian land, and now its owned by the Jews. Palestine is the only country in the world today that's being occupied controlled in every aspect by another country. It was their land...they have been there for many many years, and now the Jews start flowing in and then take over. It's like if a bunch of Mexicans kept coming over the border and then after a certain amount of years they decide to take over certain parts of U.S land. Does anyone know what I'm trying to say? When the Palestinians were running the country both the Jews and Palestinians were babysitting each others kids...and then when the Jews started taking over, they started kicking out all the Palestinians (Muslim, Christian, and even Jewish Palestinians living there because they had arab cultures and language). WTF

P.S. In know way am I siding with anyone...I'm just putting my opinion out there and would like some feedback...could this be the reason for our troubles in the Middle East?

Massiv, long before Palestinians lived there, Jews called that area their homeland. And before that, the ancestors of the Palestinians called the same land their homeland. Finding out who is the rightful owner of that territory is like trying to figure out who sparked the whole Christian/Muslim "disagreement". No matter how far back you go, there's always going to be something or someone that says "hey, no, remember when..."




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#9 10 years ago

^It doesnt matter. The jews that already lived there still lived there and all over th emiddle east. The Sephardic Jews as they are called. The Ashkenazi jews which have NOOOOOOOOOOOO Right to palestine are the ones that came in and occupied it.




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#10 10 years ago
Massiv, long before Palestinians lived there, Jews called that area their homeland. And before that, the ancestors of the Palestinians called the same land their homeland.

Well, to be fair, it was the Jews' fault the Romans kicked them out in the first place.

Also, the vote.. uh.. doesn't leave many options. Perhaps a moderator, in accordance with the thread starter, could add something along the lines of neither, both and other.

Agreed. This isn't a simple yes or no matter, there should be some poll options reflecting that.

Israelis and Palestinians have equal claim to all the lands, as far as I'm concerned. Palestinians just need to grow up, stop killing school children and maybe that will happen.

It's gone beyond that now. The numerous conflicts the two have had, as well as the spasmodic violence between the Palestinians and the Israelis, have pushed the two sides to the point where if one doesn't stop, the other won't either, creating a cycle of endless violence. I think at this stage of affairs it will take another round of diplomatic talks on the scale of the Camp David Accords to put the two sides together again, they almost certainly won't take that initiative themselves.