Fatah members rounded up in Gaza
Hamas says it has rounded up dozens of Fatah activists in Gaza, a day after a huge rally commemorating Yasser Arafat ended in gunfire killing seven people.
Witnesses say security forces opened fire on unarmed crowds after the rally turned into a protest against the Hamas movement's takeover of Gaza in June.
Hamas says its police came under attack from Fatah gunmen and returned fire.
Fatah party officials allege 400 of their supporters were arrested and dozens more summoned for questioning.
Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, of Fatah, compared the rival party's actions at the rally with "crimes of the Israeli occupier".
He has declared a three-day period of mourning for the dead and flags flew at half-mast throughout the West Bank, which has remained under Fatah control since the summer's violence.
A spokesman for Hamas's Executive Force security teams said troops had detained about 50 Fatah members since the rally.
"They are the ones who planned and organised the rally yesterday and are suspected of being responsible for the chaos that took place," Islam Shahwan said.
More than 200,000 people attended Monday's rally in Gaza City, making it Fatah's biggest show of force in the overcrowded coastal territory since Hamas took control in the summer.
Crowds were dispersing after listening to speeches from Fatah figures now based in the West Bank when the first shots rang out.
At one point hundreds of stone-throwing Fatah activists confronted Hamas security forces - despite their rivals letting off heavy bursts of automatic gunfire.
The death of Fatah founder Yasser Arafat, on 11 November 2004 from unidentified causes, deprived Palestinians of a key unifying figure.
His death was followed by an unprecedented period of conflict between Palestinian factions, especially between Hamas and Fatah following the latter's defeat in parliamentary elections in 2006.
Fuck 'em, I say. Let the place burn. The Israelis were right to erect the wall that they built. It keeps these animals out of the way of ordinary decent normal civilised people. What possible chance is there for a Palestinian State if there is such crap going down in Palestinian controlled territories? Why is the US (and other Governments) calling for the establishment of a Palestinian State when it is blatantly obvious they are utterly incapable and totally unsuited for self rule? Animals need handlers and cages and these morons shooting each other and stoning each other when they have a mutual enemy in Israel just proves that they are not ready for their own country yet.
Better to round them all up and throw them in prison or into segregated camps. That's what you do with animals that try to kill each other, isn't it?
There is no wonder the entire Middle East is a shit-fest when a people, such as the Palestinians, who have suffered and been hurt by an occupier are simply incapable of uniting in their struggle. The Israeli's must be laughing their asses off and I'm sure Arafat (the thug) is turning in his grave at the thought of the Palestinian people tearing themselves apart.
You keep up with this stuff? :lookaround:
The only part I dont agree with is that Israel are the invaders.
Both sides lived there for thousands of years, sometimes peacefully and sometimes not, til Britain and the UN divided up the country without regard to tribal and religious territories thus causing a civil war in the area. The Jews just happened to win. When they did the Arabs and most Muslims left and have been crying foul ever since.
Its not like a Jewish Army invaded the country with a amphibious assault and conquered the poor peaceful Muslims and have refused to leave ever since.
IMHO this shows the true face of Hamas, they are willing to kill their own people over shit like this.
Having actually been there and met the people you so eloquently describe as 'animals' I'm afraid I can't agree.
Mind you I was in the West Bank, not the Gaza Strip - perhaps that's what you meant, not the whole of Palestine?
That exact attitude of Europe and the U.S. is what's mostly responsible for the condition of global hotspots like Pakistan and the Palestinian territeories.
The British left these places non-functional, (civil) wars result, and unfortunately the interventionist policies pursued by the rest of the world were not exactly working towards a peaceful solution. I can't imagine a peace deal would work without an independent Palestinian state, ironically the creation of new borders can actually be productive towards better relations. It would be the necessary first step, they would have their own land and maybe then they could start getting along, since they wouldn't be fighting Israel for anything.
The same could be true for the Kurds, I believe.
The thing is, they won't agree on land that does not include either Jerusalem or near by interior territories of Israel.
I'm way cooler than n0e (who isn't though?)
11th February 2003
Im just keeping faith that they(palastenians or generally the Arabs or even the whole muslim community) might do something smart and worth while..because REALLY....no one cares about the whole situation(including Arabs) even though it affects them ALOT.
I wouldnt go as far as calling them animals. Thats just... dumb(well and I respect the people I met)
Can't say I'm surprised really...the whole situation in the middle-east in a shithole with everyone involved and noone taking the stand and admitting they are wrong.
I laugh because I know that one day they'll just kill eachother off from all those civil strifes and that's gonna be the end of that.
I concur. Enough with the sugar coating. After centuries of this shit, I don't think these people even know what the hell they're fighting over anymore, nor do they seem to care about coming up with a viable amicable solution to it.
Fuck 'em! I'll bring the marshmallows...
Most of the people want peace. Not only does that apply to Palestine or Israel, but to the whole world.
The Fatah or the Hamas get new members, when the Israeli government builds a segregation wall or drives into Palestine territory and blows up houses. The Israeli government gets new supporters, when palestinians strap bombs around their belly and blow themselves up in Israeli territory. A vicious circle.
Requesting the palestinians to be incarcerated is a biased and ignorant view at the situation and a completely false approach to the problem.
Additionally, it is ridiculous for someone who requests inhumane and unjust treatment to describe other people as animals.