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Mephistopheles

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#1 11 years ago

One of the most infamous terrorist leaders of the German RAF (Red Army Faction, a left-wing urban guerrilla group during the Seventies) who was involved in the killing/wounding of many civilians and police officers is going to be released in March.

Meinhof gang killer to be freed _42562113_mohnhaupt203.jpg Brigitte Mohnhaupt was once called the most evil woman in Germany A former member of the Baader-Meinhof gang is to be freed on probation after serving 24 years for her involvement in kidnappings and murders in the 1970s.

A German court ruled that Brigitte Mohnhaupt, 57, qualifies for early release after serving a minimum proportion of her five life sentences. The group, also known as the Red Army Faction, were behind kidnaps and killings in West Germany. The prospect of Mohnhaupt's release has sparked a fierce debate in Germany.

Mohnhaupt was convicted of involvement in nine murders. Victims included a judge, a banker and the employers' federation president.

The BBC's Steve Rosenberg, in Berlin, says she was once described as the most evil and dangerous woman in West Germany. Separately, another prominent Red Army prisoner, Christian Klar, is seeking early release. He has applied to the German president for a pardon. Our correspondent says the prospect of Mohnhaupt and Klar being freed has sparked controversy in Germany and revived memories of one of the bloodiest episodes in the country's post-war history. 'No remorse' The RAF sought to combat what it saw as capitalist oppression of workers and US imperialism. It was active from about 1970 - having grown out of student anti-Vietnam war protests - until 1992, when it abandoned violence. It formally disbanded in 1998.

One of the group's most prominent targets was the German industrialist Hans Martin Schleyer - who was kidnapped in September 1977 and shot six weeks later. Speaking before the court ruling, Mr Schleyer's son Joerg said members of the group had expressed no remorse for the killing. "I can't understand that we would take [let] them out because within the last 30 years there's nothing they said - 'OK we're sorry we murdered your father, sorry for that, we murdered policemen, sorry for that.' Absolutely no word."

The court in Stuttgart said Mohnhaupt would be released on five years probation on 27 March. "This is not a pardon, rather a decision that is based on specific legal considerations," the court said in a statement, Reuters news agency reported. "The decision for probation was reached based on the determination that no security risk exists." Is the court right to release Brigitte Mohnhaupt on probation? Are some crimes too heinous to allow the possibility of release? Or should every criminal have the prospect of freedom at the end of his sentence if he is no longer a danger to society?

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6352903.stm BBC Video feed: http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_6350000/newsid_6354600/6354617.stm?bw=nb&mp=rm

What do you think?

The decision to release her may be formally right. But to release her although she has never openly regretted what she did is not ok in my opinion.

On the other hand, she has to be treated like a criminal, not like a political prisoner. And 24 years in prison are still longer than a typical murderer has to stay in prison in Germany - with or without remorse.




MrFancypants Forum Admin

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#2 11 years ago

I think prison-time needs to be increased for most crimes, murder not being an exception.




Young_Pioneer

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#3 11 years ago

IMO she deserves to be released. Most evil Nazis didn't have to serve such a long time in prison for what THEY did. Or didn't even have to go to prison because they began to work for the 'right' kapitalist side.




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#4 11 years ago

Murder and rape should always be life sentences in every case.

Other crimes should have their prison sentences drastically increased(except "victemless" crimes like drug use.




Mephistopheles

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#5 11 years ago

MrFancypants;3532050I think prison-time needs to be increased for most crimes, murder not being an exception.[/quote] I agree. Nothing against social rehabilitation but if a person commits cold-blooded murder and doesn't even show any sign of remorse for the victims I think this person should stay in prison for more than a few years.

She is in her fifties now and could still live a good life selling books about her past. In my opinion murderers like her should not be released until they enter old age.

[quote=Young_Pioneer;3532129]IMO she deserves to be released. Most evil Nazis didn't have to serve such a long time in prison for what THEY did. Or didn't even have to go to prison because they began to work for the 'right' kapitalist side.

And some were just executed or died in prison at old age (Rudolf Heß) or worked for the Soviet Union.

I don't support the death penalty so life imprisonment for mass murder is adequate in Mohnhaupt's case. But releasing her now is not ok in my opinion.




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#6 11 years ago

I know you guys hate to have blood on your hands so send her to the US, we'll Needle her up and Bam, sentence done. Everybody wins.




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#7 11 years ago

I have studied the case by reading up on it, when I heard about it a few weeks ago. And I must say, that even though she's been in prison for a long time, she deserves to stay there. And I can not AT ALL understand what reasons they are giving, with the whole, she is not a threat to the society yadda yadda. Well if she is a threat or not isn't the point. She has murdered human beings, and there for deserves to stay in prision!




Karst

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#8 11 years ago

Even though it may be argued that she deserves to stay even longer, i don't really see a point. The RAF doesn't exist anymore, these things happened decades ago, and she's an elderly lady now, what good is it going to do to keep her in prison any longer? Basically, it only costs money. I doubt the relatives of the victims would feel any satisfaction in seeing that 57 year old women in prison longer.




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#9 11 years ago
Karst;3533199 I doubt the relatives of the victims would feel any satisfaction in seeing that 57 year old women in prison longer.

Actually, they do. The widow of one of the people murdered by this woman has send a letter to the Bundespräsident asking not to pardon this criminal.




Karst

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#10 11 years ago
MrFancypants;3533239Actually, they do. The widow of one of the people murdered by this woman has send a letter to the Bundespräsident asking not to pardon this criminal.

Oops. Well, it was only a guess. Nonetheless i stand by what i said.