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Flash525

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#1 8 years ago

The other day, I think Sunday, I watched a rather interesting film in the name of Shutter Island.

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The film followed (what the viewer first thinks is) a federal marshal that has gone to this island with a colleague of his to find an escaped patient. The first half of the film gets the suspense going, and gives the viewer chance to think about, you could say it follows in the way of Sherlock Holmes; how does someone escape from a locked room, with barred windows.

Anyway, as the film progresses, we learn that our marshal is actually one of the patients at this mental institution, and is subsequently part of a 'test' to try and 'save him' from his own fabricated world, of which he has created due to the loss of his wife and children.

This got me thinking, not specifically about the film, but about the Human Brain, and just what it is capable of. If the Human Brain can fabricate an entire reality, where everyone you know and meet have their own purpose within said reality, what else does actually go on inside our heads?

That was a rhetorical question by the way, I don't expect anyone to come back with an answer as to why people do end up in mental asylums; though that ain't to say such an answer isn't welcomed here. :)

I thought the actual subject would be an interesting one though. People who've not seen the film, you'll have to make your own judgement on whether you read within the spoiler tags or not (pretty much gives the plot away mind you).




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#2 8 years ago

Lot's of stuff can go on in the brain. Just think about dreams. I heard the philosopher Foucalt did some work on what exactly the definition of insanity is, and how it's changed over time. I haven't read it myself, but it might be worth looking into.




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#3 8 years ago

The brain tries it's best to repair any damage done to it, whether that be emotional damage or physical damage, in case of serve emotional damage, the brain will do whatever it can to forgot it, in case of physical damage, it tries to re-write it self to use other sections of the brain to carry on as best as possible.

In all honestly it's almost cliché to say it, but us humans have hardly tapped the potential of it as of yet.




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#4 8 years ago

If this thread ends up being about telekinesis or telepathy I swear I will kill somebody with the power of my brain.

Ultimately the brain is an organ, the same as any other. Humans have larger brain to body ratios than most, therefore have greater intelligence. It is curious how the subconscious deals with problems though. As Mihail said, it tends to treat damage with abstract, and it seems to work for the most part.




Flash525

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#5 8 years ago

Professor Dr. Scientist;5391979Lot's of stuff can go on in the brain. Just think about dreams. I heard the philosopher Foucalt did some work on what exactly the definition of insanity is, and how it's changed over time. I haven't read it myself, but it might be worth looking into.[/QUOTE]Well, I haven't read the book either, but I'd imagine the definition of insanity has changes because our outlook on life has changed, and we understand more now.

Think, back in the day, if you wrote a book about an alien-abduction, or claimed you saw a ghost or something, you'd have probably been labelled as insane, whereas now, as we're more open-minded, you have to actually be insane to classified as such.

Mihail;5392194The brain tries it's best to repair any damage done to it, whether that be emotional damage or physical damage, in case of serve emotional damage, the brain will do whatever it can to forgot it, in case of physical damage, it tries to re-write it self to use other sections of the brain to carry on as best as possible.
Mr. Matt;5392232Ultimately the brain is an organ, the same as any other. Humans have larger brain to body ratios than most, therefore have greater intelligence. It is curious how the subconscious deals with problems though. As Mihail said, it tends to treat damage with abstract, and it seems to work for the most part.[/QUOTE]

Interesting. :)

[QUOTE=Mihail;5392194]In all honestly it's almost cliché to say it, but us humans have hardly tapped the potential of it as of yet.

It's true.

[QUOTE=Mr. Matt;5392232]If this thread ends up being about telekinesis or telepathy I swear I will kill somebody with the power of my brain.

:lulz: no no, as much as the subject of telekinesis and telepathy interest me, this specific thread isn't for discussion on such, but rather what our brains are capable of doing to ourselves, rather than to other people.




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#6 8 years ago

Mihail;5392194The brain tries it's best to repair any damage done to it, whether that be emotional damage or physical damage, in case of serve emotional damage, the brain will do whatever it can to forgot it, in case of physical damage, it tries to re-write it self to use other sections of the brain to carry on as best as possible.

In all honestly it's almost cliché to say it, but us humans have hardly tapped the potential of it as of yet.

I concur, though it's fascinating to think of what the brain(might) be capable off.

@Matt: How about shifting the topic into the direction of placebo effects? ;) That sort of thing is rather fascinating aswell.




Flash525

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#7 8 years ago
Admiral Donutz;5394746How about shifting the topic into the direction of placebo effects? That sort of thing is rather fascinating aswell.

Very interesting indeed.

Do tablets actually do a single thing for us, or, are our 'conditions' all in the mind? Curious also, if our brain thinks we are receiving said cure for a cold, sore throat etc, and promptly heals it, I do ponder why the brain wouldn't be able to fight off the more severe illnesses such as cancer.

If you were put under the illusion that there was a cure, would you brain believe it, and cure your problem?




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#8 8 years ago

Very interesting indeed.

Do tablets actually do a single thing for us, or, are our 'conditions' all in the mind? Curious also, if our brain thinks we are receiving said cure for a cold, sore throat etc, and promptly heals it, I do ponder why the brain wouldn't be able to fight off the more severe illnesses such as cancer.

If you were put under the illusion that there was a cure, would you brain believe it, and cure your problem?

Because not everything is a placebo. The reason we give people drugs like trastuzumab and imatinib instead of just prescribing sugar pills is because those drugs have physiological effects on the body, completely separate from placebo.

Most of the drugs on the market are there today because they have shown, in clinical trials, and subsequently in Phase 4 testing, that they provide an additional effect over placebo.

Curious also, if our brain thinks we are receiving said cure for a cold, sore throat etc, and promptly heals it

That has more to do with regression to the mean, rather than placebo.