It's been quite some time since there has been a philosophy thread and I know how the mods hate thread ressurections. This is a thread to discuss philosophy, ofcourse as you've probaly guessed by the title. The First Topic being Women, Men & Relationships, after there are some replies I will post my veiws
7th March 2003
what have relationships to do with philosophy? :confused:
Perhaps you could help us by asking a philosophical question? "Women, Men&Relationship" is not exactly clear, and I would not know what to say in such a debate.
I take what n0e says way too seriously
12th March 2004
Relations is mostly biology.
a lot.and since most people think women are looked as second class citizens in Islam well......forgive for posting this....
O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower ye have given them,-except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and Allah brings about through it a great deal of good. (An-Nisa 4:19)
Its sad Muslim women are oppressed nowadays,though most oppression of women in Bnagladesh take place in the rural areas.As for urban areas women rule the men.
Womens were treated bad or as inferiors here also, not that long ago. I don't think it has to do with religions, rather with society. As Bengladesh will evolve into a modern country, womens will get more and more rights and equality.
okay, it's just open for philosophical statements, ones veiws on the subject, but if you want to get specifc, what about equality since it seems to be already delving into that direction with the islam relation, philoshpy has to do with this because some people look at things from a certain veiw point, others look at it from another. For example from a muslim's veiwpoint, what is equality and what is fair? That however is not so much a philosophy veiw point as a cultural one, but none the less anyone may have an independantly formed veiw and way of thinking, despite their background
"equals should be treated equally, and unequals unequally." Socrates (or Aristotle, who ever taught Plato.) Regarding rights it all comes down to if you believe in natural rights (that we're born with, that everyone has) and who applies to it (white or brown ppl, male or female, young or old, fetus or baby.) Personnally my 'equals' list includes all races, all sexes, fetus included (i'm against abortion), and the only ones who should be treated unequally are those under the age of 18 (or 16, whatever education level is the case.) That age because any other age below that would result in poor uneducated choices by the youth. Back on the subject all women are equal, if not superior if u count the age they die compared to ours. Which reminds me of this study conducted here on tv a little while ago, they did this to 1000s of people and they concluded men are just slightly more faster. anyways This thread may become an interesting discussion if it takes off. Philosophy is such a huge subject that you could tie almost any other thread to it, like the 'teens and sex', 'punishment for adultery', or even 'is it ok to negotiate with terrorists?' threads. Obviously this thread seems to be about human rights and philosophy so far.
what type of punishment do they used to have for fornication and adultery during the times of the Socrates,Plato,Aristotle?
For example from a muslim's veiwpoint, what is equality and what is fair?
everyone should be educated and the opinions of both men and women should be asked.treated equally and that means giving all their appropriate rights .i.e the rights they deserve .
Lord Abrarurwhat type of punishment do they used to have for fornication and adultery during the times of the Socrates,Plato,Aristotle?
Depends were. In some places they used lapidation. I don't know about Greece tho.