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Embee

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#1 7 years ago

One of the bloodiest attacks since a long time ago.

Al Jazeera Turkey has paid last respects to the 24 soldiers killed by Kurdish fighters on the Iraq border, as Turkish warplanes and helicopter gunships continued attacks on Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) bases in northern Iraq. The air force kept up its bombing raids overnight in response to the attacks, which were the worst loss of life for the army since 1993, local security sources said on Thursday. Military activity at the air base in mainly Kurdish Diyarbakir province was intensive, with F-16 jets taking off to target the hideouts of the separatist PKK, the sources said. The PKK, which has waged a decades-long separatist struggle against Ankara, claimed responsibility for the attacks, which occurred late on Tuesday and early on Wednesday. Between 200 and 250 Kurdish rebels entrenched in the mountains of northern Iraq are believed to have crossed into Turkey to carry out the raids on military posts, which also left 18 people wounded. Following the attacks, the Turkish army immediately responded with an air-supported operation against the fighters in Iraq's northern Qandil mountains, with both air strikes and soldiers on the ground employed. Military funeral A military ceremony was held on Thursday morning in Van, a city in eastern Turkey located 150km north of Wednesday's combat zone. The coffins, draped with the red and white flag of Turkey, were loaded into military aircraft to be taken to their hometowns for burial. Spontaneous demonstrations were held Wednesday across Turkey. A group of taxi drivers in Istanbul closed the road to traffic in protest at the attacks. Music concerts were also cancelled. President Abdullah Gul, who recently made a morale-boosting visit to border troops, vowed Turkey's revenge for the attacks would be bitter. Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan promised to fight against the PKK, but said the bloody offensive would not change his government's determination to solve the Kurdish conflict. Turkey's parliament was due to discuss further measures in a closed door session on Thursday. Iraqi condolences Iraq on Thursday condemned the PKK attacks and said it would co-operate with Turkey on maintaining security to prevent such attacks in the future. "The Iraqi government and the Kurdish Regional Government are committed to maintaining border security and security co-operation with the Turkish government to prevent such acts from being repeated," the foreign ministry said in a statement. Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, a Kurd, called his Turkish counterpart, Ahmet Davutoglu, on Wednesday to offer his condolences, Turkey's NTV television reported. Davutoglu told Zebari, who visited Ankara last week, it was not the time for condemnation but for taking concrete steps to stop the PKK violence. Ankara has repeatedly urged the Iraqi government not to allow its territory to be used as a springboard by the PKK for attacks on Turkey. Last week, Zebari had said the problem could be resolved in a way that would not poison Turkish-Iraqi relations. Kurdish fighters have carried out a string of attacks in southeastern Turkey in recent months, killing more than 50 Turkish nationals since July, and prompting retaliatory air raids on PKK targets in northern Iraq. The PKK, listed as a terrorist organisation by Turkey and much of the international community, took up arms for an autonomous state in 1984, in a conflict that has claimed about 45,000 lives. SOURCE: Turkey continues attacks on Kurdish fighters - Europe - Al Jazeera English

24 deaths this month, accumulating to around 60 since August 2011. What surprised me is the Iraqi co-operation. Let's hope it does help to weaken the PKK.




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#2 7 years ago

Silly Turks, don't they know that defeating terrorism is impossible?

Seriously though, I find it interesting that Turkey does pretty much what the US does in Afghanistan/Pakistan and what Israel does in Gaza. The cooperation of Iraq doesn't surprise me though, it seems that a lot of Kurds live in Iraq which might eventually be a problem for the Iraqi government.




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#3 7 years ago
MrFancypants;5574510The cooperation of Iraq doesn't surprise me though, it seems that a lot of Kurds live in Iraq which might eventually be a problem for the Iraqi government.

The Iraqi gov't is mostly made out of Kurds. I don't see what you mean by Kurds causing "a problem for the Iraqi government". EDIT: And this is proof that terrorism is very active.




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#4 7 years ago
Embee;5574550The Iraqi gov't is mostly made out of Kurds. I don't see what you mean by Kurds causing "a problem for the Iraqi government". EDIT: And this is proof that terrorism is very active.

I mean that Kurdish terrorists who try establish an autonomous state in Turkey or the border region could be a threat to Iraqi sovereignty/unity.

And yes, terrorists seem to be active in that area as well. Which is probably why Turkey emulates US and Israeli tactics.




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#5 7 years ago
MrFancypants;5574563And yes, terrorists seem to be active in that area as well. Which is probably why Turkey emulates US and Israeli tactics.

The reason why I despise this choice. I prefer a silent way, instead of bombing everything up, because the latter is only going to bring up critique and more problems.




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Embee;5574585The reason why I despise this choice. I prefer a silent way, instead of bombing everything up, because the latter is only going to bring up critique and more problems.

So you'd ignore the 50-something deaths over the past weeks and try to talk to them? Can't say that I'd agree with this choice, but at least you're consistent.




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#7 7 years ago

I think you mean PKK freedom fighters defeat 24 imperialists.




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#8 7 years ago
MrFancypants;5574598So you'd ignore the 50-something deaths over the past weeks and try to talk to them? Can't say that I'd agree with this choice, but at least you're consistent.

In fact, I wouldn't. You know what I'd do? I'd give the Kurds more rights, more freedom, but at the same time, I'd use the most infamous forces of the Turkish army and send them behind the PKK, not planes and helicopters. Because what the PKK is after is disunion, to put one against the other. They expect Turkey to retaliate by retracting the Kurds' rights and give them justice that way.




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#9 7 years ago

I doubt that those guys will appreciate the additional rights if you're still trying to kill them. And your soldiers probably won't be happy to be sent without air support into mountain ranges controlled by terrorists. In the end you'll reaffirm the PKK in their belief that violence pays off and lose a bunch of soldiers in the process.




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#10 7 years ago
MrFancypants;5575215I doubt that those guys will appreciate the additional rights if you're still trying to kill them.

You didn't get it. Most Kurds in Turkey are with the Turks and against the PKK. We're not killing "them", we're killing terrorists.

And your soldiers probably won't be happy to be sent without air support into mountain ranges controlled by terrorists.

Not normal soldiers. Turkey should invest in a Mossad-like agency or task force and pick the terrorist leaders off one by one. That's what I meant. Not open warfare.

In the end you'll reaffirm the PKK in their belief that violence pays off and lose a bunch of soldiers in the process.

Then I hope that affirmation costs the PKK dearly.