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I was reading a story about a Planned Parenthood clinic that got attacked in Wisconsin. This occurred back on Sunday evening (April 1st) and involved a small explosive device that damaged the building, but not extensively enough to shut it down; it reopened on the following Tuesday.

Wisconsin Planned Parenthood Bombing Draws FBI Vow To Protect Public Access To Abortion Clinics

In the wake of the Planned Parenthood bombing in Grand Chute, Wisc., the Federal Bureau of Investigation has reaffirmed its commitment to protecting women's access to reproductive health facilities.

Teresa Carlson, special agent-in-charge of the FBI's Milwaukee office, announced the arrest of 50-year-old Francis Grady for "arson of a building used in interstate commerce" and "intentionally damaging the property of a facility that provides reproductive health services" on Tuesday. She said in a statement, "The FBI will always investigate and bring to justice anyone who resorts to violence as a means to harm, intimidate, or prevent the public's right to access reproductive health services."

Around 7:30 p.m. Sunday evening, a bomb was placed on the windowsill of a Grand Chute Planned Parenthood clinic -- one of the three Planned Parenthood facilities in the state that offers abortion services. The bomb went off, causing a fire at the clinic that damaged one of the exam rooms. No one was hurt.

Grand Chute law enforcement was able to track down Grady after his white SUV, which was spotted leaving the scene shortly after the bomb went off, was involved in a traffic accident nearby. Grady is scheduled to make his initial appearance in U.S. District Court in Green Bay at 1:30 p.m. Wednesday afternoon.

U.S. Attorney James Santelle, Eastern District of Wisconsin, will be prosecuting Grady. He said in a statement:

"When the Congress passed the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances (FACE) Act in 1994, it specifically empowered law enforcement to respond to those who engage in violent and other obstructive behaviors that interfere with access to reproductive services. The complaint that we filed today in federal court not only responds to the particular conduct of Francis Grady in committing arson at and causing damage to the Planned Parenthood Clinic in Grand Chute, but it also signals the continuing, strong commitment of federal, state, and local authorities to ensure access to clinics -- and to seek criminal penalties against anyone who would compromise that right."

The police later arrested a 50 year-old Wisconsin resident as a suspect who they believe is most responsible for the bombing. This is based off the vehicle seen leaving the clinic and from (blurry) security footage. As the same site expands,

Planned Parenthood Bombing Suspect Arrested In Wisconsin

A male suspect was arrested in Grand Chute, Wisconsin on Tuesday in connection with the bombing of a local Planned Parenthood clinic.

On Sunday night, a bomb was placed on the windowsill of a Planned Parenthood clinic -- one of the three out of 27 Planned Parenthood clinics in Wisconsin that offer abortion services. The bomb went off and sparked a small fire at the clinic, which damaged one of the exam rooms. No one was hurt.

"Following a report by a witness that a white, SUV type vehicle was seen leaving the Planned Parenthood area at the same time flames were also observed at the building, investigators were able to corroborate this information after viewing security video from the location," Grand Chute Police Sgt. Greg Mohr said in a press release.

The vehicle, which had "distinctive markings," was involved in a traffic accident near the clinic after the bomb was reported and had to be towed away. Using information collected from that traffic accident, the police were able to identify the driver, whose physical description "matched physical characteristics of a male subject observed on the security video provided by Planned Parenthood," the press release said.

Police located the suspect on Sunday night and have detained him at Outagamie County Jail. They did not release details about his age or appearance and said no charges have been filed.

“As a trusted nonprofit health care provider, patient health and safety is our top priority. We applaud law enforcement who were able to work so quickly to apprehend a suspect. Violence in our society should never be tolerated," Teri Huyck, president and CEO of Planned Parenthood of Wisconsin, said in a statement. "We extend our heartfelt gratitude to the law enforcement agencies working with us to ensure Planned Parenthood of Wisconsin continues to be a safe and trusted health care provider for Wisconsin women and families.”

UPDATE: 5:15 p.m. -- According to information obtained by Talking Points Memo, the suspect who was arrested is 50-year-old Francis Gerald Grady. Grand Chute, Wis. Police Chief Greg Peterson said "there's a strong link" between Grady and the bombing, but they haven't been able to prove it because the footage obtained from Planned Parenthood's security camera was so blurry.

“It strikes me that it’s a male and you can determine some things about body type and things like that,” Peterson told TPM. “Unfortunately, the video doesn’t provide a face shot or anything we can look at with certainty and say that this is the person.”

So that got me thinking about the debate involving Planned Parenthood that comes up a lot in the States, as it ties into abortion. There was of course a few years back the murder of Dr. Tiller in Kansas while he was attending church by a pro-life nut. Dr. Tiller was one of the few abortion providers that gave late-term abortions (i.e. past the 21st week). In my opinion the whole debate has become very vitriolic in nature, focused on exaggerations and hate towards these organizations providing such services as a major problem of the US.

It is interesting to me with the increasing position that Planned Parenthood has taken in recent years. While this began back in the 80s really, in the past decade the rhetoric has heated up with attacking Planned Parenthood as a major provider of abortions. According to records from last year, the breakdown of Planned Parenthood procedures nationwide came as so:

Contraception (including reversible contraception, emergency contraception, vasectomies and tubal sterilizations): 4,009,549 services

Sexually transmitted infections testing and treatment: 3,955,916 services

Cancer screening and prevention: 1,830,811 services

Other women’s health services (including pregnancy tests and prenatal care): 1,178,369 services

Abortions: 332,278 procedures

Miscellaneous (including primary care and adoption referrals): 76,977

Total services: 11,383,900

By that tally, we would get abortions as coming in just under 3% of services provided (332,278/11,383,900=0.029). The accusation is often that these abortions are done through the federal funding given to Planned Parenthood, though they are not legally allowed to this anyways, with abortion funding coming through private sources and fees from Planned Parenthood. The charged price of abortions- again 3% of procedures-, was enough to provide Planned Parenthood with some 15% of their revenue earned in 2009. This however runs contrary to claims about A. Most of Planned Parenthood's services being abortion and B. Making most of its revenue from Abortion.

At any rate it has become part of several Republican politicians' programs in state legislatures, along with odd (and redundant) 'anti-sharia' laws and politically-influenced education changes. Texas for its part has recently passed laws defunding Planned Parenthood by barring it from receiving money from Texas's Women's Health Program, along with another budget decision slashing woman's services by 2/3rds. This is coupled with plans to push these clinics out of federal funding to state control, and slowly weeding them out.

This is despite, again, the majority of the clinics' services come from providing contraceptives and STD health. This has led to charges about an irresponsible charge by Republicans which has endangered women's health services, particularly in lower-income areas.

At any rate it continues to be a focus by pro-life activists in the abortion problem. This ranges from protests to acts of violence by a small number, as well as self-styled 'investigative journalists' trying to catch Planned Parenthood operators in the act of doing unmoral and/or illegal activities. Last year in South Dakota, a law was under consideration which expanded cases of justifiable homicide in cases where a fetus was endangered, which some critics saw as a free pass for violence against abortion providers, perceived or real.




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#2 6 years ago

I heard about the crusade against Planned Parenthood as well a while ago. Whatever one's position with regard to abortion is, it is too bad that an organization which offers that many beneficial services is made the target.

Someone should tell those fundamentalists that the "logical" (from their perspective) thing to do would be to attack the legislative and judiciary branches of their government. Maybe they'd realize that what they are doing is terrorism if they understand that their primary targets are supreme judges and presidents.




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There's only a small number of them that do this, for the most part their efforts have been legislative as you can see with the fights over funding. The problem is the debate has taken such a passionate side they feel they are fighting against the murder of living things and must take any measures to stop it.

The Planned Parenthood angle is interesting because I'd argue most of these people were not aware of its existence until it became a talking point in the 90s (for the most part), and typically the information they get on the organization is from the media. Similar case with the mess over ACORN. Providing the contraception and other services they do is what it typically does, and that's particularly important in under-served or poor areas.

The irony I think is that *generally* the same people attacking Planned Parenthood for being this hotbed of abortion usually feel negatively about families with too much children being a drain on the system. Providing contraception would help with controlling that one would think, avoiding the derided 'welfare baby'.

There's also been something running parallel to this over birth control in general. To an extent over the concept of 'abstinence-only' sex-ed.




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#4 6 years ago

I'm not sure about the reliability of Rolling Stone as a news source, but I read in the last issue that Rommney had mentioned shutting planned parenthood down completely. I am curious to know if the majority of the opposition to planned parenthood actually know all of the services they provide and how helpful those services are. As Mercz mentioned I think abortions are not preformed there as commonly as people believe.

Personally I think the Planned Parenthood does great things for people. My girlfriend gets birth control from them for no cost, which some may complain is a waste of state funding but I think better she receives free birth control at 90 dollars a month rather than hundreds of dollars of state funded assistance for a child we can not yet afford. But seriously I thought it was 2012 people need to open their eyes and their minds.




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When ever I read things like this and especially when they have killed or aimed to kill people then a line from spooks comes to mind. "To kill in the name of life is just about the stupidest thing I have ever heard" These people are terrorists plain and simple and should be hunted as eagerly as every other terrorist group. I am not dismissing there cause but in this day and age in western society there are democratic options to further ones cause. All actions like bombing a clinic will do is take away credibility for genuine political supporters to voice there opinions incase they are tarred with the same brush as these nutjobs.




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When ever I read things like this and especially when they have killed or aimed to kill people then a line from spooks comes to mind. "To kill in the name of life is just about the stupidest thing I have ever heard" These people are terrorists plain and simple and should be hunted as eagerly as every other terrorist group. I am not dismissing there cause but in this day and age in western society there are democratic options to further ones cause. All actions like bombing a clinic will do is take away credibility for genuine political supporters to voice there opinions incase they are tarred with the same brush as these nutjobs.




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#7 6 years ago

Well, let's just say that these people have demonstrated that they are not, really, pro-life.


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You can't argue or reason with a crazy person. It's sad to see with Planned Parenthood providing so many beneficial services to women it getting attacked and its purpose slandered. As a woman, any time I read about something like this or cancellation of reproductive care I take it as another blow, it seems more like a war on women than anything else to be honest. And not to mention the more I see, the less fair I think it would be to birth a child into such a screwed up world, which makes me feel even more adamant about birth control.

I'm not going to turn this into a religious thread or debate, but it seems the majority of the offenders' reason for being against these things is religion. And while religion has done a lot of good for some, it has been the source of pain and suffering for others over many millenia. Wasn't America founded on the freedom of religion, which should also by default include freedom from religion?

I just personally feel attacked by these pro-life maniacs, control of a body should be the owner's alone and not to any outside party.


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#9 6 years ago
MoreGun89;5630048control of a body should be the owner's alone and not to any outside party.

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Dewey;5629961I'm not sure about the reliability of Rolling Stone as a news source, but I read in the last issue that Rommney had mentioned shutting planned parenthood down completely. I am curious to know if the majority of the opposition to planned parenthood actually know all of the services they provide and how helpful those services are. As Mercz mentioned I think abortions are not preformed there as commonly as people believe.

Personally I think the Planned Parenthood does great things for people. My girlfriend gets birth control from them for no cost, which some may complain is a waste of state funding but I think better she receives free birth control at 90 dollars a month rather than hundreds of dollars of state funded assistance for a child we can not yet afford. But seriously I thought it was 2012 people need to open their eyes and their minds.[/QUOTE]

You would think, but unfortunately it is becoming a casualty in the politcal dick waving that's going on right now. Planned Parenthood in particular is in a bad spot because it can simultaneously be seen as a burdensome welfare program, encouraging promiscuity and bad morals, and intertwined in the abortion debate.

Of course for those who want to see the organization solely as the abortion provider using federal funds, through certain budgeting practices they feel has allowed that, it's a big issue to them. Or may be the angle of it being burdensome. Or even in to the broader debate (yes, it's still there apparently) over birth control/contraceptives vs. abstinence.

It's really, really unfortunate though that people who rely on this service on one way or another are being put to the fire to satisfy some interest group's half-assed crusade. In Texas the moves towards defunding will provide a model for other states also considering the same action- it has already caused the closure of several clinics whose clients were beneficiaries of the Texas Womens' Health Program.

Of interest is to see the brouhaha over the Susan G. Komen's decision to halt its funding for Planned Parenthood over the abortion issue before it reversed position after backlash. It had taken the 'advice' from various pro-life groups on the issue, often consisting of (as one would expect), exaggerated data. In doing so the Komen charity took the hypocritical position of denying a source of breast cancer screening and referrals for lower-income areas who would face more difficulty with treating it. Interestingly, the fact that this caused the backlash it did indicates, to me at least, that people are in favor of these services- it's just the debate is presented in such a way that people are not aware of the ramifications of some of these decisions.

Goody.;5630015When ever I read things like this and especially when they have killed or aimed to kill people then a line from spooks comes to mind. "To kill in the name of life is just about the stupidest thing I have ever heard" These people are terrorists plain and simple and should be hunted as eagerly as every other terrorist group. I am not dismissing there cause but in this day and age in western society there are democratic options to further ones cause. All actions like bombing a clinic will do is take away credibility for genuine political supporters to voice there opinions incase they are tarred with the same brush as these nutjobs.[/QUOTE]

Thankfully the FBI steps in during cases like this and lets it slide. But the same mentality and atmosphere that encourages this sort of debate will continue to persist. It might or might not spawn another similar person.

All the while the ones moving towards the legislative route are largely undeterred. This was, of course, a lone-wolf and does not represent their views. They clean their hands of violence, but avoid the questions on the implications of what they are pushing for.

[QUOTE=computernerd;5630018]Well, let's just say that these people have demonstrated that they are not, really, pro-life.

He may or may not have known the clinic was empty. In the latter event he probably just want to hinder its operations. The ones with fatalities involved, such as with Tiller and back in the 1990s with John Slavi's attack on two Planned Parenthood clinics and murdering two receptionists.

[QUOTE=MoreGun89;5630048]You can't argue or reason with a crazy person. It's sad to see with Planned Parenthood providing so many beneficial services to women it getting attacked and its purpose slandered. As a woman, any time I read about something like this or cancellation of reproductive care I take it as another blow, it seems more like a war on women than anything else to be honest. And not to mention the more I see, the less fair I think it would be to birth a child into such a screwed up world, which makes me feel even more adamant about birth control.

I'm not going to turn this into a religious thread or debate, but it seems the majority of the offenders' reason for being against these things is religion. And while religion has done a lot of good for some, it has been the source of pain and suffering for others over many millenia. Wasn't America founded on the freedom of religion, which should also by default include freedom from religion?

I just personally feel attacked by these pro-life maniacs, control of a body should be the owner's alone and not to any outside party.

It's just the way religion is politicized unfortuantely. These kinds of issues can be a good lightning rod for the substantial groups of religious folk to get out and vote for politicians they would usually not vote for, either due to apathy of their own or not really onboard with the politician's views as a whole.