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#1 13 years ago

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=1&u=/ap/20050202/ap_on_re_eu/pope_flu_21

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By VICTOR L. SIMPSON, Associated Press Writer

ROME - Pope John Paul (news - web sites) II was rushed to the hospital Tuesday night after he suffered inflammation of the throat and had difficulty breathing while battling the flu, the Vatican (news - web sites) said.

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Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls told The Associated Press that the decision to hospitalize the 84-year-old pontiff was "mainly a precaution."

He pointed out that the pope was not in intensive care but in the same 10th floor suite of rooms where he has been during several previous stays at Rome's Gemelli Polyclinic.

The pope has the flu and acute laryngeal tracheitis, Navarro-Valls said, acknowledging the pontiff had a "certain difficulty in breathing." The spokesman, who has a medical degree, denied Italian news reports that the pope had a CAT scan at the hospital.

Navarro-Valls said more tests will be done on Wednesday. The Vatican planned to issue a medical bulletin on Wednesday morning sometime after 9 a.m. (3 a.m. EST), the spokesman said.

The Vatican said in an earlier statement that the pope suffered from "an acute laryngeal tracheitis and larynx spasm crisis."

Tracheitis, an inflammation of the trachea, requires hospitalization and usually a breathing tube to keep the airway clear. The spasms are likely a complication from the respiratory illness he's had.

It's possible his Parkinson's disease (news - web sites) has made his condition more serious and his breathing more labored.

A Vatican official told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity that the pontiff, who has had the flu since Sunday, had apparently suffered a "breathing crisis."

A close member of the pope's staff, American Archbishop James Harvey, said the pope had congestion and a slight fever during the day.

A State Department official, who asked not to be identified, said the pope would be held overnight for observation but there was no indication he was gravely ill.

Cars with Vatican license plates were speeding toward the Catholic hospital, where the pope had been taken, according to an AP correspondent at the scene.

It was the same Rome Catholic teaching hospital he was taken to when he was shot in the abdomen in 1981 and at which he has undergone several operations.

Navarro-Valls told the Italian news agency ANSA that the pope was in his room in an apartment set aside for him at the hospital, which is near the Vatican.

The frail pontiff has Parkinson's disease, which makes his speech difficult, as well as chronic hip and knee problems.

He was last seen in public on Sunday, when he made his regular noontime appearance at his window overlooking St. Peter's Square and released a dove in a sign of peace. He appeared remarkably lively, but his words were barely audible.

Until the pope had been taken to the hospital, the Vatican had been issuing reassuring news about his condition, up to Tuesday's late night news cast on Vatican radio.

First word of his transfer to the hospital Tuesday night came from Italian news media.

The Vatican announced earlier Tuesday that it had canceled the pope's engagements for the next few days.

The canceled appointments included John Paul's weekly public audience Wednesday. Besides the traditional morning gathering with the faithful, he had been scheduled to preside at a candle-blessing service in St. Peter's Basilica that evening.

The flu has been sweeping through Italy since December. The Rome region, which is shivering through a cold spell that has dropped temperatures below freezing at night, has been among those hit the hardest.

About 40 percent of the flu cases have been children, with the elderly making up only a small fraction of cases after an aggressive campaign of flu vaccinations for older people, health officials said.

It was not known whether the pontiff had a flu shot.

Vatican Radio asked Navarro-Valls earlier Tuesday if the pope felt the good wishes of people worldwide who are concerned about his health.

"I think so, and as always, the Holy Father is grateful for the prayers of the faithful and of all those who love him. I think this closeness means a lot to him," Navarro-Valls said.

John Paul has kept a busy schedule despite experiencing difficulties with speech and movement that are typical for Parkinson's sufferers.

The last time the pope skipped an audience for illness was in September 2003, when he canceled his traditional Wednesday appointment for pilgrims and tourists because of an intestinal ailment.

The Vatican makes brief announcements when the pope falls ill but rarely provides details about the extent of the illness or any medication he may be taking.

Is he gonna die?

And if so, how do they choose a new pope?




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#2 13 years ago
NiteStrykerIs he gonna die?

yes... people die, funny that. :vikki:




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#3 13 years ago

Well here's something I thought I'd never see. I didn't even know he could die. In some ways, I hope that he doesn't die. Most of my own religious beliefs are founded on the fact that he's immortal. In some ways, though, I often think that if I was as old as he was, I'd probably want to die.

Oh, as usual, HowStuffWorks is at hand with an explanation of everything, even what to do in the event of your pope breaking down. http://people.howstuffworks.com/papacy3.htm




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#4 13 years ago

AzHyes... people die, funny that. :vikki:[/QUOTE] No really? Is that what my cat did right infront of my eyes? Huh....

:cort: back to a revelent discussion....

[QUOTE=Matt]I didn't even know he could die.

Well as far as I kno hes a mere mortal. He has no supernatural powers, altho you would think he did if u saw him. Im suprised he hasnt died sooner...

I wonder if hes a Do-Not resusatate? (a little medical joke for those educated in the medical field)...

And does he have a priest read him his last rights?




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#5 13 years ago

Well the doctors might class him as a DNR. His friendly religious followers might tell the doctors that God will choose the right path for him. And the politicians who have a stake in his survival will bribe the doctors to just replace the last vital organ he has with an artificial version. So if he gets up on stage with a mechanical voice and says 'KILL, CRUSH, DESTROY: DEATH TO THE ORGANICS', you know what's happened.

So far as religious ceremonies concerning his death are concerned; what do you think? I'm no expert on the pope (not even knowing his name), but I would say that he would have the grandest funeral ceremony you're ever likely to see. Who would be the next-highest ranking official of that particular branch of religion? I guess whoever that is would be the one to do the honours.




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#6 13 years ago

Mr. MattWell the doctors might class him as a DNR. His friendly religious followers might tell the doctors that God will choose the right path for him. And the politicians who have a stake in his survival will bribe the doctors to just replace the last vital organ he has with an artificial version. So if he gets up on stage with a mechanical voice and says 'KILL, CRUSH, DESTROY: DEATH TO THE ORGANICS', you know what's happened.

So far as religious ceremonies concerning his death are concerned; what do you think? I'm no expert on the pope (not even knowing his name), but I would say that he would have the grandest funeral ceremony you're ever likely to see. Who would be the next-highest ranking official of that particular branch of religion? I guess whoever that is would be the one to do the honours.

Considering he's the pope, I think god would send lots of flowers. I really don't care about the pope, popes have died in the past so they can handle it that way.




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#7 13 years ago

I am not religious so I dont kno the structure of the Vatican...




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#8 13 years ago

The Pope is going to die just like everybody else does at old age. It is the 21st century and we are still fretting over the health of the Pope, let alone still having one? His death will be no more significant than my step grandfather's. :vikki:




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#9 13 years ago

im going to be the new Pope...and when i am... ALL heathens will PAY! tthe vatican will be my compound of holy justice!

ITALY'S STREETS WILL RUN WITH THE BLOOD OF SINNERS!! HAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAH!




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#10 13 years ago
Μαjïç MushrøøMThe Pope is going to die just like everybody else does at old age. It is the 21st century and we are still fretting over the health of the Pope, let alone still having one? His death will be no more significant than my step grandfather's. :vikki:

Not to you maybe. Not to me either. But to other people, it means a lot. Including a few important people. Unfortunately, religion is still a powerful force in society.