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#1 8 years ago

Thousands of U.K. Students Protest Tuition Fees Hike - FoxNews.com

"LONDON -- Tens of thousands of students marched noisily through London on Wednesday against plans to triple university tuition fees, and some tried to occupy the headquarters of the governing Conservative Party, in the largest street protest yet against the government's sweeping austerity measures. Organizers said 50,000 students, lecturers and supporters were demonstrating against plans to raise the cost of studying at a university to 9,000 pounds ($14,000) a year -- three times the current rate. Violence flared as a handful of people smashed windows in a high-rise building that houses Conservative headquarters, as others lit a bonfire of placards outside the building. Office workers were evacuated as several dozen protesters managed to get into the lobby, chanting "Tories Out," while outside police faced off against a crowd that occasionally hurled food, soda cans and placards. "We are destroying the building just like they are destroying our chances of affording higher education," said Corin Parkin, 20, a student at London's City University." ___________________________ aha, gotta love that socialism, right? Greece, France, yadda yadda, but go ahead keep telling us how backward USA is. (was)




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#2 8 years ago

as a British student, while i don't agree with the exact methods used, the double standards the government acts with are disgraceful. it's hiking up tuition fees and making i think, £80 billion of cuts, but at the same time, it's giving massive tax write-offs to some of the biggest businesses in the country. it's a disgrace and the government should learn to act impartially, or at least to show consistency with its policy.




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#3 8 years ago

I find the protests laughable. Education quality has been sliding down the shitter for years and they didn't give a damn. Now their pocket money is being threatened and they're angry. This isn't about not being able to afford a good education; that hasn't been on the cards for years; this is about not being able to afford a student lifestyle. Not being able to have what the latest Sitcom has told them is a good idea.

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#4 8 years ago
I find the protests laughable. Education quality has been sliding down the shitter for years and they didn't give a damn. Now their pocket money is being threatened and they're angry. This isn't about not being able to afford a good education; that hasn't been on the cards for years; this is about not being able to afford a student lifestyle. Not being able to have what the latest Sitcom has told them is a good idea.

Yay lets make other unsubstantiated statements and state them as fact :)




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#5 8 years ago
Keyser_Soze;5422296as a British student, while i don't agree with the exact methods used, the double standards the government acts with are disgraceful. it's hiking up tuition fees and making i think, £80 billion of cuts, but at the same time, it's giving massive tax write-offs to some of the biggest businesses in the country. it's a disgrace and the government should learn to act impartially, or at least to show consistency with its policy.

l totally agree, its the same in australia, governments are run by big business.




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#6 8 years ago

Well my take on things, is they (or we) could increase things a lot less. After Obama,? BAMM ! one can of tobacco went from $15 to $32 roll your own. Of course the money goes to other peoples kids for some damn government program health care that a family of 4 can earn $80,000 a year and still apply.I say that money should go for smokers health or prevention as long as they are handing out (and stealing) money. I could have gone for a $5 increase, but no, socialist liberal do-gooders, holier than thou types that must punish people with their ideology, instead of logical common sense governing. They should just tack on $1000 to the tuition or something. However I posted this thread in pure contempt of those who argue for socialism, and to point out flaws in other countries since USA (American way) is always a target of foreigners opinions.




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#7 8 years ago
jackripped;5422348l totally agree, its the same in australia, governments are run by big business.

yeah, was travelling there when Kevin Rudd announced the mining superprofit tax- the mining companies pretty much made it not go through. although in fairness, mining is a lot more worker-intensive than financial institutions in the UK are, although i don't know how the tax would have affected workers, if at all. [QUOTE=Red_Fist;5422351]Well my take on things, is they (or we) could increase things a lot less.

After Obama BAMM ! one can of tobacco went from $15 to $32 roll your own. Of course the money goes to other peoples kids for some damn government program health care that a family of 4 can earn $80,000 a year and still apply.I say that money should go for smokers health or prevention as long as they are handing out (and stealing) money.

I could have gone for a $5 increase, but no, socialist liberal do-gooders, holier than thou types that must punish people with their ideology, instead of logical common sense governing.

They should just tack on $1000 to the tuition or something.

However I posted this thread in pure contempt of those who argue for socialism, and to point out flaws in other countries since USA (American way) is always a target of foreigners opinions.

There isn't much socialist about david cameron in the end. he may be rising certain taxes, but he is also making massive spending cuts, and i'm yet to see mass nationalisation under him. In reality, there aren't many socialist nations out there, at least not by my definition. most truly socialist nations are in south america, and even these are questionable, as they are not always with the intention of improving things for everyone, so by the standard definition, even they aren't socialist. the problem is, annual tuition fees could be £9000. that's almost $14,500. it's disgraceful. ideally, i wouldn't want tuition fees. of course, then, everyone would go to universities, when in actual fact, most people shouldn't. the Labour government had a target of 50% of people enrolling to university. this would just cause degrees to be worthless and increase mickey mouse courses (golf course management, etc- it really exists...) if the government really wants to do something about the cost of university, it should get rid of all these pointless courses... they are pointless, and are not credible in the least. if i was an employer looking at a degree of management, and a degree of Spa management, even if i was employing for spa work, i'd probably hire the management graduate...




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#8 8 years ago

They are still getting off easy compared to students in the US. Some of the best public university's in the world are in the UK, and they only cost $14,000 a year. I have also heard that you don't have to pay back the loans unless you make over a certain amount of money.

Meanwhile in the US I am paying $16,000 a year to go to a good state school. If I want housing at the university I have to pay $25,000 a year. I have to pay with loans like the students in the UK, but I have to start paying them 6 months after I am "done" with school regardless of whether or not I have a job. I could drop out at the end of this semester, not find a job, and owe on $22,000 in loans come the end of May.

Welcome to the real world students in the UK.




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#9 8 years ago

Students protest about everything, even stuff they dont know about. So it makes sense they'll actually protest about something that concerns them. I bet the protesting students are the Upper-Middle class students anyway, whos families can afford to support them regardless of cuts. Its as laughable as all the students who lobby for Socialism and the "workers", most of them are the Upper Middle class students, a product of the unfair system of privilidge themselves, they soon grow up and become the same people who run everything, never ever to be a proper "worker" in their entire life. Oddly most of the real "workers" are either non-political or more often veer to the Nemesis of the far left student types, Nationalistic views. I know ive gone a bit off topic, but I hve to vent my anger and hatred of Students. As the bloody working man I have to give all my money for food, bills, taxes, rent, etc, so why shouldnt they pay for their education, being educated in Uni often puts them ahead in life, with a better paid job (if they get a job), so why shouldnt they pay for it?




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#10 8 years ago
Never Surrender;5422376Its as laughable as all the students who lobby for Socialism and the "workers", most of them are the Upper Middle class students,

not true. that's probably an acceptable statement in a university like oxford or cambridge, but most students are problem low-mid middle class. i doubt many people at uni are working class, although your statement is still flawed- i don't hear anybody lobbying for the workers...