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eezstreet

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#1 8 years ago

So there's a new anti-Obama slogan out, with a quote to Psalm 109 verse 8:

Let his days be few, and let another take his office

Immediately following that verse is:

Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.

Personally, when it comes to politics I'm fairly independent, not leaning towards Republican/Democrat/Conservative/Liberal in any way (Why don't they work together or abide by what George Washington said...?), but I see this as being purely unamerican. Just because you dislike your president doesn't mean you should kill him.

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#2 8 years ago

Though I don't think Obama is at all bad enough to deserve to be killed, I can perfectly well understand why someone would want to. Our representative system is hardly good at allowing individuals to exercise political power, and so physical power, violence, is often the only way to actually make a change.

If someone sees Obama as an oppressor it is actually highly "American" to want to see him dead, or at least forcibly removed from power. Our founding fathers warned us to stay vigilant and to remain willing to use violence to affect change. That, however, doesn't mean it's not stupid and foolish. Without some kind of organization backing you up a single person could hardly hope to kill the President and actually see their changes come from it. Usually it just ends up worse for the person's cause.




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#3 8 years ago

The idea that someone might be out to kill a black president isn't new, but so far noone seems to be inclined to mess with the secret service.

As for killing him due to his policies - that's just ridiculous. The only controversial policy is his healthcare reform and that is only controversial because the Republican party and their media-outlet organised an effective propaganda campaign. A Republican president would have tried a healthcare reform as well sooner or later. He'd have listened to pretty much the same experts who studied the same healthcare systems of other countries and come to the same conclusions and then sugarcoated it with a bit of freedom and freemarket-ideology.




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#4 8 years ago

Afterburner;5143735Though I don't think Obama is at all bad enough to deserve to be killed, I can perfectly well understand why someone would want to. Our representative system is hardly good at allowing individuals to exercise political power, and so physical power, violence, is often the only way to actually make a change. [/QUOTE]No man deserves to be killed...

If someone sees Obama as an oppressor it is actually highly "American" to want to see him dead, or at least forcibly removed from power. Our founding fathers warned us to stay vigilant and to remain willing to use violence to affect change. That, however, doesn't mean it's not stupid and foolish. Without some kind of organization backing you up a single person could hardly hope to kill the President and actually see their changes come from it. Usually it just ends up worse for the person's cause.

IF Obama or who ever else was an actual or suspected oppresor, ea a dictator or such, if all democratic rights were effectively stripped and taken away, then yes it would make sense for people to rally or even kill their dictator. Otherwise, it would just be a total loony who can't wait for the next elections and/or can't wait that long and/or simply can't respect what the "majority" (elections will never be an exact 1 to 1 mirro image of the populaiton and the opinions of that populations on any given topic) and the "oppression of the majority" system. But by that reasoning any person could walk up to any perosn in authority and kill them (or shooting the assasin for that matter).

As far as the bible quote... pathetic. Though it's a general one, one could quote that for well... any person (in authoirty). Thus who-ever takes such a quoto for the truth should be okay with any person shooting any authority person for any reason ("hurhurhur, I shot the sheriff because he's a nazi" and "I shot the deputy because he's a socialist" and "I killed the mayor because he's a capitalist pig who helps out the bakers and supresses us common folk!" etc. etc.).

[QUOTE=MrFancypants;5143762]The idea that someone might be out to kill a black president isn't new, but so far noone seems to be inclined to mess with the secret service.

They'd have to fly to, say, Africa for that. The US has no black president. =p

As for "controversial policies", Obama is as much of a closet socialist/communist (well Stalinist, nothing wrong with commies and socialists, it's the Stalinists, Maooists etc. one would want to go after) as Bush was a closet nazi. Silly people. :n0e:




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#5 8 years ago

It's a shame this is what the world has come to.




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#6 8 years ago

IMO Conservatives get pretty radical, there just full of alot more hot air then the average Liberal, I mean there were the Liberal's who walked around carrying signs during Bush's term saying "A Village in Texas has losts its idiot" but I don't recall anything about wanting to kill him. Conservapedia, the wiki by Conservatives as by the name, says Wikipedia "has a liberal bias", but if you do a stroll around the site, its pretty obvious its far more biased then Wikipedia. It is at least modest and refreshing to see that they admit there is a bias in there site, and that the bias there talking about on Wikipedia is on Conservative politicians.

Well if you want to see what I'm talking about here's some examples Barack Hussein Obama - Conservapedia Atheism - Conservapedia even Adolf Hitler - Conservapedia (at the bottom they say that Atheists are sympathetic too Hitler) If this site represents most Conservatives and Republicans, not hard to see why there so hard to deal with.




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#7 8 years ago

I live around a lot of them and they always talk about shooting the president. Literally. Every freakin' day. "Well, let's just let him take a nice stroll through downtown...."

Honestly, you must be sadistic to go that far.

I can completely agree with Admiral Donutz on this.

You can literally see all the bias in this, it's terrible.

"Barack Hussein Obama II aka Barry Soetoro" "allegedly *insert 5 untrustworthy sources here* born in Honolulu, Hawaii" "During Obama's youth in Hawaii, he developed a strong, almost Father/Son relationship with Frank Marshall Davis, a high level Communist Party functionary" "while Obama has stated that his favorite professors in school were themselves Marxists." "The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons observed that Obama used techniques of mind control in his campaign, as in this speech:"

I think I'm willing to go troll this site now because of the blatant stupidity.

EDIT: Oh, I almost forgot about this one: " Hitler and the Theory of Evolution

" Fail.




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#8 8 years ago

I really, really, have gotten sick and tired of these crazy religious ideologues picking and choosing which parts of the Bible they want to follow, and making their own interpretations of things that, let's face it, no one really understands!




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#9 8 years ago

That really is a terrible thing to say about someone.




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#10 8 years ago

First off - how widespread is this bible campaign against Obama? If it's one but vocal group, I think nothing is ever come out of it.

On another note, I love the seeping bias from that conservative wikipedia. Just the first sentence from the atheism entry.

Atheism, as defined by the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy and the Routledge Encyclopedia of Philosophy, is the denial of the existence of God.