I guess what I'm trying to ask is why would God, if he is forgiving, set up a system where someone has to take the fall when a mistake is make? Why are sacrifices required to be forgiven of sins?
TheMirageagain: it wasn't the pian that redeemed us. It was his death. The pain wasn't even necessary. @ steakboy: he went to hell to get out those that didn't belog there.
I know, but he was still there, he experienced it, he was in the fire, that was part the sacrificial process as well
They aren't. See, ever since the first sin, the gates of heaven were closed, but Jesus took all our sins and made them his, so they died with him. Note that that doesn't mean we can't still sin today. Its just that now we can get into heaven, under the right circumstances. Really, I don't understand every detail myself. Heck, I'm only 15. I could find out though.
Why would God close the gates of heaven after the first sin? To me that seems to be the opposite of forgiveness. If he sacrificed his son to open the gates again, then that shows that he wanted the gates to be openned again. If he wanted them open again, why didn't he just do it directly instead of sacrificing his son? I just can't see why an all-powerful, all-knowing deity would do things in such a roundabout way.