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#1 11 years ago

In many instances people thank for veterans about their hard work and politicians praise their achievements, but the practical show of respect is an other thing: veteran pensions aren't that well off in many countries.

How much do you respect the veterans, the people who have fought for your nation in a war? Do they receive enough respect in practice?




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#2 11 years ago

Unsurprisingly, since veterans here are generally WW2, there are not that many of them, all of them are quite old, and due to the role of WW2 they are not the most popular group of people. Personally i don't respect a veteran anymore than any other average person simply for having been in war. I have much greater respect for people that have achieved great things on civilian level, masters of sciences and arts, or politics.




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#3 11 years ago
Karst;3557840Unsurprisingly, since veterans here are generally WW2, there are not that many of them, all of them are quite old, and due to the role of WW2 they are not the most popular group of people. Personally i don't respect a veteran anymore than any other average person simply for having been in war. I have much greater respect for people that have achieved great things on civilian level, masters of sciences and arts, or politics.

:agreed

I don't know if the attempt of respecting veterans in Germany makes a lot of sense anyway. Respecting someone for risking their life might be understandable, but people usually forget that soldiers mostly try to take lifes instead of getting killed themselves, not sure why you'd respect someone more than anyone else for that. Especially if said person killed or tried to kill people in an unjust war.

The few veterans I met I respect because of what they went through after realizing that they had made a terrible mistake. It is also is a good idea to treat veterans respectfully as they can usually teach you a few things about war, patriotism and similar things.




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#4 11 years ago
Karst;3557840 Personally i don't respect a veteran anymore than any other average person simply for having been in war. I have much greater respect for people that have achieved great things on civilian level, masters of sciences and arts, or politics.

I have to agree to this. And I also want to add that there is a difference between a vet and a vet. A veteran who ACTUALLY defended his country is more respected in my eyes then a veteran who just been to war. Example, I don't respect any American or Russian soldier generation after WWII, and in the Russians case, I don't respect any of their soldier from any time in the time of period. About the American soldiers for example, I respect those who gave their life in helping Europe to become free. But that's where it stops. I don't respect Korean-, Vietnam-, Gulf-war vets, since they don't defend their country, in my eyes.




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#5 11 years ago
*SW3D3*;3557960I don't respect Korean-, Vietnam-, Gulf-war vets, since they don't defend their country, in my eyes.

I don't really see the logic in that. Both soldiers in the Second World War and the Vietnam war were drafted, and both would do as their government ordered them to do. What difference does it make weither they Liberate Paris or Saigon?




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#6 11 years ago
'LIGHTNING [NL;3557980']I don't really see the logic in that. Both soldiers in the Second World War and the Vietnam war were drafted, and both would do as their government ordered them to do. What difference does it make weither they Liberate Paris or Saigon?

It matters to me. And the fact that they were drafted has absolutely nothing to do with it.




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#7 11 years ago
Karst;3557840Personally i don't respect a veteran anymore than any other average person simply for having been in war.

So you dont think that someone who survived trench warfare and is now living with shellshock because they chose to go out and fight for their country deserves any more respect than a normal person? If a guy was up there on the front line of WWI, or put his life on the line in WWII has any more respect than someone who has achived nothing? The world wars were horrific. Especially WWI trench conditions. The strain those guys must have been under is incredable. The ones who survived probably did so by chance and will have witnessed many tragic deaths. You really don't think that this deserves your respect? I sure as hell do.




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#8 11 years ago
Spartan_113;3558060So you dont think that someone who survived trench warfare and is now living with shellshock because they chose to go out and fight for their country deserves any more respect than a normal person? If a guy was up there on the front line of WWI, or put his life on the line in WWII has any more respect than someone who has achived nothing? The world wars were horrific. Especially WWI trench conditions. The strain those guys must have been under is incredable. The ones who survived probably did so by chance and will have witnessed many tragic deaths. You really don't think that this deserves your respect? I sure as hell do.

I pity someone who has seen the horrors of war and is now traumatized. But i don't see why i should respect them any more. Respect has to do with achievements, not suffering of hardships. And i don't think simply being in war, however terrible, can be seen as a great achievement, any more than being the victim of a robbery or something can.




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#9 11 years ago

I respect the veterns in my country a lot (Whether they are from WWII, Vietnam, Iraq War #1 or #2, etc...)

They have chosen to protect freedom and liberty and our way of life and i truely respect that.


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#10 11 years ago
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.;3558077They have chosen to protect freedom and liberty and our way of life and i truely respect that.

You mention choice, but at least in WW2 and Vietnam there was no choice. Does that make a difference to you?