We are so eager to send them into war...yet so hesitant to welcome them back. Veteran's hospitals can't even care for the wounded and the government does NOTHING for them but give them a meager monitory restitution and a metal pin. Parades and pats on the back mean nothing if we can't take care of our troops for fighting our wars, whether you agree with the war or not. I support my best friends in the military as best I can, sending them letters, email, anything that they would ask of me.
I respect the veterans.
I know many people who joined the Military because I was in JROTC in High School. No one joined thinking "I cant wait to get my gun so I can go kill people and expand the borders of the glorious United States of America.
Most like me joined because we wanted to show our appreciation for our country, as in patriotism. Why do British, Russian, Chinese, or any countries soldiers join? some are drafted, some join because its family tradition adn they want to serve just like thier fathers, and their fathers, fathers did.
Once in the field most soldiers dont care about politics. They are a family who depend on each other with their lives.
If you dont like or agree with Iraq or Vietnam by all means speak your mind. But it is unfair to blame the soldier.
What impresses me is the guy who does his tour then turns around and volunteers for a second and sometimes third tour. Why? "So some poor sob isnt here doin it. I have been through this once so I know what to expect. Better me than some poor kid here for his first time."
I even respect German soldiers from WW2. Not all soldiers are murdering, genocidal bastards. Some are fathers with sons and daughters of their own.
I think its easy to sit in your nice warm cozy house in your comfy chair and talk shit about someone who is living in dirt and mud and eating MRE's and wishes he were home but thinks its his duty to be here defending your right to sit at home and bitch about him.
I dont care what nationality. If that person put his life on the line for his country and has not committed any warcrimes then he is desrving of our respect and gratitude. If he does not put his life on the line voluntarily then it could be you called up in the draft pool.
I think its stupid to suggest you should desert or leave the country rather than serve if drafted. IMHo that makes you nothing but a worthless piece of S**t coward.
B.F. Pierce;3564480Kind of an odd way of looking at it, considering most of the soldiers sent into Iraq and Afganistan had as little choice in the matter as your average draftee. Depends on when you signed in I guess.
And the US military wonders why recruitment is so low these days :rolleyes:
I don't quite understand what you're getting at here, and either way you can't compare not being able to get a good education and later job because you didn't join the military, than being imprisoned or killed because you didn't join the military. I'm well aware that for most American soldiers the military is one of the only career options, but they still ultimately have a choice that draft victims don't have.
Karst;3565142I don't quite understand what you're getting at here, and either way you can't compare not being able to get a good education and later job because you didn't join the military, than being imprisoned or killed because you didn't join the military. I'm well aware that for most American soldiers the military is one of the only career options, but they still ultimately have a choice that draft victims don't have.
Well mostly I was referring to the people who joined up in peace time. However, what exactly about prison makes it worse than being impoverished and uneducated? Maybe the poor and uneducated have it great over in Europe, but here, there really isn't much of a difference.
You still live in a small room (if you even have a room), don't get out much (if at all), deal with physical threats from your fellow neighbors, have a shitty education system, but at least in prison you get to eat every day.
I suppose you'd say, well, at least you have your freedom. Ask a poor uneducated person if they feel like they're free, and that'll give you an answer.
As for career options, working fast food or pumping gas versus joining the military to (maybe depending on branch and deployment) risk your life for a free education and a good salary is a no brainer to some people.