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super6-4

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#21 12 years ago
Vasili;4549125They surrendered because they were fighting three major allied nations and were nuked, the Japs could of kept fighting for alot longer and were damn close to doing so anyway before Americans killed thousands of civilians. So, you won by killing innocents in the end, how almighty of you there, well done. Seriously, you need to get a world check, the world does not care about what America does here, or what it did there can you not say something without going on about how awesome America is just for once? Also, there is something called an edit button.

those atoms bombs didnt have to be dropped but the stubborn jap govt. who didnt believe in surrender, said no so therefore, will pay the consequences. and if i recall it was the japs that said they would do anything to not surrender. the emperor told the people of japan to arm themselves with whatever they could find. and to fight to the death, the peps agreed so therefore your "innocent civilians" werent so innocent.




AlDaja

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#22 12 years ago

“Japs”? Anywho… Yikes, Vasili you sound a little joyous about them Americans getting killed. Actually heavy losses occurred between both armies. American soldiers were well versed on jungle warfare. We fought several battles in the Philippines and in Central/South America long before WWII broke out. American forces were thin in the Pacific because we were fighting a war on two fronts. And the Japanese often outnumbered us 5 to 1 in most Pacific ground battles. Had nothing to do with technology – for the most part we were equally matched on that, it mostly had to due with sheer numbers. The Japanese’s military machine surrendered only because we wiped out their navel base in Nagasaki with the second bomb. The Emperor and majority of his advisers wanted to surrender long before Hiroshima, only because they knew something the Imperial Navy did not – that we were about two weeks ahead of them in creating the atomic bomb.




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#23 12 years ago
AlDaja;4549139“Japs”? Anywho… Yikes, Vasili you sound a little joyous about them Americans getting killed. Actually heavy losses occurred between both armies.

Yes I know, I was refearring to his point on bragging on how Italians were defeated somewhere else, apparently Italy stands for the whole of Europe. If he likes to play by those games I'd rather show him some of his own information. Also, my Grandad thought in Burma, don't blame me for having a slight disliking towards both Japs and Americans. Not that I hate them, just the things anger me.

those atoms bombs didnt have to be dropped but the stubborn jap govt. who didnt believe in surrender, said no so therefore, will pay the consequences. and if i recall it was the japs that said they would do anything to not surrender. the emperor told the people of japan to arm themselves with whatever they could find. and to fight to the death, the peps agreed so therefore your "innocent civilians" werent so innocent.

I believe they were forced too, but the majority of them surrendered without even a fight, and the same goes for Russia and it's civilians who joined the red army, and Germany. We were also talking about this one city, which was not ready for arms.




Psychokenesis

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#24 12 years ago
Nemmerle;4549010Making the other guy dead, (well technically the capability and available will to do so,) is your protection when you walk into a room where people are out to get you, just as it's their protection from you. Russia and America have been able to live with each other for the past sixty odd years because of the fact they both have big guns. Russia is justifiably worried that America intends to upset that balance of power.

Well then all we have to wait for is the end of the world.




Nemmerle Advanced Member

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#25 12 years ago
Dursk;4549616Well then all we have to wait for is the end of the world.

Just because I don't trust you doesn't mean we cant get along within certain rules. Even criminals learn to live with each other, the smart ones anyway.

The worst situation you can get into in a fight is when the other guy knows he's going to get hurt but isn't smart enough to figure out it's going to be a potentially crippling experience. The smart fighter upon seeing you can hold youself alright is going to back well away before anything starts. And that's what nukes do for countries, they make it apparent to everyone this fight isn't worth getting into. When you've got conventional armies people think they might be able to put the beat down on you without getting hurt too much, but there ain't no putting the beatdown on someone with a few thousand nukes.

Edit: America is probably going to go through with its missile shield, we might get into another arms race. But at the same time both America and Russia know that a few dozen interceptors aren't a challenge for a few thousand shiny ICBMs. It's just where this is going that's got people rilled up, no-one really wants another few decades of America and Russia fluffing feathers at each other. Asides from which a lot of this is about the internal politics of Russia as much as the international politics. Tell people they're threatened and then offer to protect them, Putin and co' aren't idiots, it's an old trick and its been played to win a people a thousand times over... far be it for me to draw similarities to recent internal politics in the 'states of course.




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#26 12 years ago

Dursk;4549616Well then all we have to wait for is the end of the world.[/quote]Or the end of this friggin thread. lOl

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America is probably going to go through with its missile shield, we might get into another arms race. But at the same time both America and Russia know that a few dozen interceptors aren't a challenge for a few thousand shiny ICBMs. It's just where this is going that's got people rilled up, no-one really wants another few decades of America and Russia fluffing feathers at each other.

America doesn't have to fluff it's feathers any more. It has already shown ( whether right or wrong) it will stand by it's commitment in conflict and do what is necessary. Especially after the 9/11 issues. There is no reason for it to stand by any longer and " take crap" from people it has helped. Especially when they come right back to them and lie and beg for the help.




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#27 12 years ago
~Merrick;4550916America doesn't have to fluff it's feathers any more. It has already shown ( whether right or wrong) it will stand by it's commitment in conflict and do what is necessary. Especially after the 9/11 issues. There is no reason for it to stand by any longer and " take crap" from people it has helped. Especially when they come right back to them and lie and beg for the help.

Post 9/11 America's been doing nothing but fluffing feathers. Iraq and Afghanistan would be very quiet empty places if that weren't the case. We both know what America could do if it got serious and this shit ain't it.




Psychokenesis

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#28 12 years ago

I'm with Merrick on this one. America is holding back but they've shown what weapons free looks like. If Russia growls in the wrong direction I have no doubt the escalation would occur under this current military climate.

Prudence demands that we deploy ships to observe yours...Your government should consider that having your ships and ours, your aircraft and ours, in such proximity is inherently dangerous. Wars have begun that way,Mr. Ambassador. ~The Hunt for Red October




SpiderGoat

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#29 12 years ago
super6-4;4549080not to mess with Europe? ahahahha friggin Micronesia could prob kick the euros ass. look at history, when Italys Mussolini decided to invade Ethiopia, they were defeated. friggin bushmen with spears and stones beat men with rifles and tanks.

It would be nice for you to get a history book and "look at history". The Ethiopians defeated the Italians in the First Italo–Ethiopian War, during the scramble for Africa. As a consequence, the country was the only area that stayed independent from direct European control. Mussolini fought and conquered the area in the Second Italo–Ethiopian War. It was later liberated by the British.

And Europeans were killing eachother many thousands of years, before they decided they could also go and take America from the Indians. Not that one should be proud of that. To pride onself on the killing of people is something very infantile, don't you think? [Vanitas Vanitatis, omnia vanitas.]

Regardless, even with the relative weak state of the European armies, "we" have 600000+ men in arms. Way more than Russia. With Challenger tanks, Leopards II and a modern airforce. Micronesia, yeah. Sigh.




Nemmerle Advanced Member

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#30 12 years ago
Dursk;4551603America is holding back but they've shown what weapons free looks like. If Russia growls in the wrong direction I have no doubt the escalation would occur under this current military climate.

You see what weapons free looks like on a firing range in that sense, that's not the issue here.