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Thus far the White House's "We the People" website, which allows for people to file petitions for the government to respond to presumably, has seen some coming up relating to the secession of several states. These are tied to the results of the US election- in total there's been at least 100,000 people signing such petitions, the greatest being Texas which has achieved the 25,000 threshold for the White House to be obligated to make a response.

Secession petitions flood White House website - POLITICO.com

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President Obama's reelection last week has prompted a slew of requests to secede from the United States.

Using the Obama administration's own We the People website, nearly two dozen petitions have sprung up asking the Obama administration for permission to withdraw from the Union.

The two most popular petitions, Texas and Louisiana, have both drawn more than 10,000 signatures each as of Monday morning. The Texas petition needs only 7,000 more signatures to trigger an official White House response.

None of the petitions explicitly cite Obama's reelection as a reason for independence, but all were created after last week's elections.

"The citizens of the US suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the [National Defense Authorization Act], the [Transportation Security Administration], etc," the Texas petition charges. "Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it's citizens' standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government."

Others are more vague for in their reasons for wanting to leave the country.

"just like in 1860 the south secede from the union. 2012 the state of georgia would like to withdraw from the USA," one of the Georgia petitions states.

Most of the petitions simply quote the Declaration of Independence in their request to depart the country.

As of Monday, residents of Kentucky, Oregon, Montana, North Dakota, Mississippi, North Carolina, Florida, Georgia, New York, New Jersey, Colorado, Arkansas, South Carolina, and Missouri have all expressed interest in dissolving their relationship with the United States.

BBC News - US election: Unhappy Americans ask to secede from US

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12 November 2012 Last updated at 16:40 ET US election: Unhappy Americans ask to secede from US More than 100,000 Americans have petitioned the White House to allow their states to secede from the US, after President Barack Obama's re-election.

The appeals were filed on the White House's We the People website.

Most of the 20 states with petitions voted for Republican Mitt Romney.

The US constitution contains no clause allowing states to leave the union. By Monday night the White House had not responded.

In total, more than 20 petitions have been filed. One for Texas has reached the 25,000-signature threshold at which the White House promises a response.

'Blatant abuses'

The last time states officially seceded, following the election of Abraham Lincoln, the US Civil War followed.

Most of the petitions merely quote the opening line of America's Declaration of Independence from Britain, in which America's founders stated their right to "dissolve the political bands" and form a new nation.

Currently, the most popular petition is from Texas, which voted for Mr Romney by some 15 percentage points more than it did for the Democratic incumbent.

The text complains of "blatant abuses" of Americans' rights.

It cites the Transportation Security Administration, whose staff have been accused of intrusive airport screening of flyers.

Of course it's only a handful of people in the grand scheme of things but still rather amusing. A few mention things like the NDAA I have qualms with too, but I have to wonder if this is related to the recent election solely, as I don't recall the same degree of outrage from these sectors over the Patriot Act.

Personally I think there has and been a lot of overreaction all the time with elections, be it those saying they'll move up to the great northern wilderness of canada, to the outrage on the internet like these kinds of things.




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#2 5 years ago

:rofl:

Let them leave, and good riddance.


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#3 5 years ago

A new take on the old "if x wins I'm moving out of the country" said by Democrats and Republicans alike any time their guy loses. However, this time, instead of moving out of the country they'll just move their state out of country, cutting out the middle man, I like it.




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#4 5 years ago

Of all of these secession threats, I'd only take Texas seriously.




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#5 5 years ago

I suppose it wouldn't be very presidential to mock them while explaining the concepts of democracy and arithmetic (I have a sneaking suspicion that the Texans petitioning to secede would be vastly outnumbered at the polls), now would it...




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Commissar MercZ;5670911Personally I think there has and been a lot of overreaction all the time with elections, be it those saying they'll move up to the great northern wilderness of canada, to the outrage on the internet like these kinds of things.

I hope those people know that most Canadians do not want to move up to the great northern wilderness of this country, that's where the trolls live. There's a reason why 90% of Canadians live within 100 miles of the border.

I don't know why disgruntled Americans (presumably Republicans) would want to move to Canada because Obama won, it's not like Canada is a bastion of conservatism.




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#7 5 years ago

Keep in mind, these are the same people who think that Obama is a socialist.


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#8 5 years ago

With the exception of possibly Texas none of the other states that are presumably seeking to secede could not afford to be without federal government aid on some level or another.

I looked at the petition to secede for South Carolina which is where I live. I find it hilarious how there are people from other states signing the petition. I have not and have no plans on signing any of these petitions but to read through some of them and see some of the crazy shit that people have commented on is mind boggling.




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#9 5 years ago

I wonder how many of those votes are from within the states the petition concerns. =p Someone in Washington who wants Texas to leave presumably has subtly different motives from a Texan in that desire.

Honestly, the population of the U.S. must have dropped by almost 50% anyway, considering all the people saying they'd leave. I mean your word is your bond, right? And you did say people should leave the country if they don't like how it's run, right?

Heh-heh-heh. But nah, seriously. It just strikes me as a load of hot air. People are going to risk civil war over the economy? Fuck right off. The first night they had to live without cable TV and hot running water they'd call the whole thing off.

"Revolution! Revolution! Freedom (TM) for all! Oh shit, we're going to miss American Gladiators, let's go home boys!"

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#10 5 years ago
Killer Kyle;5670923Of all of these secession threats, I'd only take Texas seriously.

Because Texas had such a harrowing and gritty fight to defend its territory during that Civil War; Psyche. The Union Army never had more than skirmishes in Texas, and didn't even have a single soldier in the state at the time of their surrender.




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