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emonkies

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#1 13 years ago

Donald Rumsfeld says US is worried about China's rapid and extremely large budget Military buildup. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=4&u=/ap/20050604/ap_on_re_as/rumsfeld_asia

Rumsfeld: China's Military Buildup a Threat

By MATT KELLEY, Associated Press Writer 15 minutes ago

SINGAPORE - China's military buildup, particularly its positioning of hundreds of missiles facing Taiwan, is a threat to Asian security, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Saturday.

Rumsfeld rebuked China at a regional security conference here, saying it was pouring huge resources into its military and buying large amounts of sophisticated weapons despite facing no threat from any other country.

The Pentagon chief's remarks signaled a harder line against China from the Bush administration, which has criticized Beijing over trade and human rights issues but not directly challenged its military buildup.

The director of the Asia bureau of China's foreign ministry, Cui Tiankai, was in the audience for Rumsfeld's speech and reacted strongly.

"Since the U.S. is spending a lot more money than China is doing on defense, the U.S. should understand that every country has its own security concerns and every country is entitled to spend money necessary for its own defense," Cui told The Associated Press after Rumsfeld's remarks.

Rumsfeld said the Pentagon's annual assessment of China's military capabilities shows China is spending more than its leaders acknowledge, expanding its missile capabilities and developing advanced military technology.

China now has the world's third-largest military budget, he said, behind the United States and Russia. He did not say how large the U.S. believes China's military budget is.

"Since no nation threatens China, one must wonder: Why this growing investment? Why these continuing large and expanding arms purchases?" Rumsfeld said at the conference organized by the International Institute of Strategic Studies, a private, London-based think tank.

Cui responded sharply to Rumsfeld during a question-and-answer session.

"Do you truly believe that China is under no threat by other countries?" Cui asked. "Do you truly believe that the U.S. is threatened by the emergence of China?"

Rumsfeld said he does not think any country threatens China and that the United States does not see China as a threat.

Central to the disagreement is Taiwan, a self-governing island Beijing regards as a renegade territory.

China has said it will attack Taiwan if the island tries to declare independence, and it repeatedly calls on the United States to stop selling weapons to Taiwan. Beijing denounced a joint U.S.-Japan statement earlier this year saying the two allies shared the objective of a peaceful resolution of the Taiwan issue.

The United States is urging the European Union to keep in place its ban on selling weapons to China. Washington argues that any European weapons sold to China could be used in a conflict over Taiwan.

"I just look at the significant rollout of ballistic missiles opposite Taiwan, and I have to ask the question: If everyone agrees the question of Taiwan is going to be settled in a peaceful way, why this increase in ballistic missiles opposite Taiwan?" Rumsfeld said.

He also questioned China's government, saying political freedom there has not kept pace with increasing economic freedom.

"Ultimately, China will need to embrace some form of a more open and representative government if it is to fully achieve the political and economic benefits to which its people aspire," he said.

The defense secretary, who has said he would like to visit China this year, also pressed Beijing to use its influence with North Korea to restart six-nation talks over Pyongyang's nuclear weapons program. North Korea has stayed away for a year from the talks with China, the United States, South Korea, Japan and Russia.

Rumsfeld said the United Nations may need to decide what to do about the nuclear threat from North Korea, which declared in February that it has atomic bombs. North Korea says it needs a nuclear deterrent because of what it calls Washington's "hostile policy" against it.

Rumsfeld said North Korea is a worldwide threat because of its record of selling missile technology and other weapons. "One has to assume that they'll sell anything, and that they would sell nuclear weapons," he said.

Similar U.S. criticism of North Korea has sparked an angry response from Pyongyang. The state-run Korean Central News Agency this week called Vice President Dick Cheney a "bloodthirsty beast" for saying that North Korean leader Kim Jong Il was irresponsible.

President Bush and other administration officials say the U.S. has no intention of attacking North Korea.

Tensions between the two nations have been rising in recent months. Last week, the Pentagon suspended its only contact with North Korea efforts to search for the remains of missing servicemen from the Korean War. U.S. officials said they could not guarantee the search teams' safety in remote areas.




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#2 13 years ago

theres nothing to fear as long as china can be threatened with nuclear arms, but with that said, you should welcome your new chinese overlords.




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#3 13 years ago

damn thier just now worried lol




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#4 13 years ago

It not like they will come over here and attack us or anything like that.So I not worried




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#5 13 years ago

it is only a matter of time until something happens, just a little attack might spark something big




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#6 13 years ago

oh no! china is building up. quick prepare a series of pre-emtive strikes. they must be crippled before they can become a threat to global security!




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#7 13 years ago
"Since the U.S. is spending a lot more money than China is doing on defense, the U.S. should understand that every country has its own security concerns and every country is entitled to spend money necessary for its own defense," Cui told The Associated Press after Rumsfeld's remarks.

:agreed

"Ultimately, China will need to embrace some form of a more open and representative government if it is to fully achieve the political and economic benefits to which its people aspire," he said.

Is it just me or does this sound arrogant? No surprise the US gets bashed everywhere if they use such diplomacy.




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#8 13 years ago

This is merely bluff and posturing by The Defence Secretary. Suggesting a hrd line aginst a country which you rely on economically is ludicrous:

Japan, [COLOR=Red]China[/COLOR], Taiwan, and South Korea hold 40 percent of our government debt. (That’s why we talk nice to them.) “By helping keep mortgage rates from rising, [COLOR=Red]China has come to play an enormous and little-noticed role in sustaining the American housing boom[/COLOR]” (NYT, Dec. 4, 2004). Read that twice. We owe our housing boom to China, because they want us to keep buying all that stuff they manufacture.

Rumsfeld can say what he wants but the U.S. wouldn't dare take any action against China. They are too powerful and have the nuts of the U.S. in a vice due to the financial powerhouse they have/are becoming/becoming. What are they going to do? Use economic sanctions against a nation they rely on economically? That's retarded, even by Bush Administration standards.

Lap it up, America. China is becoming bigger than you'll ever be. I'd like to see more co-operation between the U.N. and China. Perhaps these two economic and military power-houses can put a stop to the War of Global Oppression being waged by America.

No, silly, I'm nottalking about attacking or starting conflict which would lead to WWIII. I'm talking about applying diplomatic pressure to an upstart warmongering nation.

It is ironic really:

China's military buildup, particularly its positioning of hundreds of missiles facing Taiwan, is a threat to Asian security, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Saturday.

Is he glossing over the fact that the U.S. led invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq are threats to WORLD security? I think so...




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#9 13 years ago

And you think the Chinese are going to play any nicer with Europe?

If the Chinese are going to have America by the balls then they are going to make Europe their Bitch.

"War of Global Opression" What a crock of fucking bullshit.




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#10 13 years ago
And you think the Chinese are going to play any nicer with Europe?

Considering Europe doesn't persistantly attack other nations for their domestic policies, yes.

Considering recent discussions on lifteing the EU China arms ban, yes.

Europe is decades ahead of America in terms on social development. If we were still a backwards, hick nation, then no. But Europe no longer relies on America as it should and new alliances should be sought.

If the Chinese are going to have America by the balls then they are going to make Europe their Bitch.

Keep on with yo' dreamin', son.

"War of Global Opression" What a crock of fucking bullshit.

Call it what you will. It doesn't change THE FACT that America has dipped it's nose into other's business (where it is not wanted) far too often.

OPPRESSION

Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc etc etc... The list of places you went but were not welcome is as long as my arm. So, take your 'crock of fucking bullshit' and shove it where the sun don't shine. :)