No I feel you do not have to be baptised to go to Heaven. Simple and short.
17th June 2002
What came first, 'god' or the Church? Any god who would condemn you to eternal damnation in a fiery pit of pain and suffering just because you didn't sign on with an institution as morally questionable as the Church, regardless of whether you were a saint or a maniac during your lifetime, isn't worth your allegiance in the first place. Neither, for that matter, is a god who condemns good people to such a fate just because they didn't believe in him, but that's another discussion altogether.
I am prity sure you dont neet to be baptised. Its to small of a thing, plus baptism is just one of the things you need to be married as a christian or something, like your first conformation and confession and communion...
i talked with my pastor about this last night at dinner and he said that the only reason people get baptized is a\like... an initiation of sorts.. not really, but kinda.... because you can accept jesus as lord and live in the ways of god and so forth, he said the onthing baptisim is is a public statement to the rest of the church that you have accepted christ, but its not a needed thing to do, some people just like having it done and its usualy done in front of the church so the others can see and kinda say "we're here for you through this walk you have chosen"..kinda like that... he explained it better.. but i hope you get it lol
Faith and a belief in Jesus Christ is what gets you to heaven.
I personally believe non-mortal (as in the stuff that isn't so bad) sins can be worked off in Purgetory. The more sins you have, the longer you stay there. So if your not baptized but you lead a good life, spend some in prayer and reflection in purgetory and your good. You won't be punished for all eternity for something so trivial. At the same time, getting baptized isn't something that will guarentee entry into heaven. You still need the good deeds (actively good, not just avoiding the bad) to go to heaven after you die.
It's interesting that the though Christ's didn't set out to start a religion and openly disdained pointless rituals and meaningless fabricated dogma, his followers just turned around and did exactly that only a few hundred years later.
No you don't.
I didn't make it!
Jetro;3562426It's interesting that the though Christ's didn't set out to start a religion and openly disdained pointless rituals and meaningless fabricated dogma, his followers just turned around and did exactly that only a few hundred years later.
No you don't.
He defintly did set out to start(or rather, renew) a religion but I agree. The bible clearly states that Christ believed the rituals to be pointless. The true way to God was supposed to be through acts of kindness. I just wish Rome had never made Christianity the offical religion. If that had never happened Pippen probaly would never have given away half his lands to the Pope and the whole chain of events that lead to corruption would never have happened.
I think I know what Jet means...
He didn't start out to establish Christianity...his purpose was to embrace Judiaism. But the jews rejected him...The result was one trying to push out Christ followers and the subjugated always seem to flourish...and flourish they did.