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#1 6 years ago

Now, don't get all bent out of shape, they haven't said yet whether the shooter was religious fanatic or not yet.

Christian University Shooting Leaves at Least 5 Dead - Yahoo! News

It's most likely just another story of a crazy person strutting onto a school yard.


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#2 6 years ago

I don't understand why ,especially in America, some people are reaching this level of cruelty..in these cases the schools have to 'level up' they're security system..




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#3 6 years ago
doris088;5629224I don't understand why ,especially in America, some people are reaching this level of cruelty..in these cases the schools have to 'level up' they're security system..

How? More cops on campus? They're already "gun-free zones", and the university is located in a very anti-gun city.




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Crazy Wolf;5629231How? More cops on campus? They're already "gun-free zones", and the university is located in a very anti-gun city.

no.I don't mean cops..In my school here in greece there was a man-guard hired from the government in order to stay in our school all day and all night.. just in case..I don't like cops too.in my university we don't have cops but never anyone tried to kill a student..




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#5 6 years ago

^I'm pretty sure if I was planning a school shooting and knew there was a guard, I'd kill him before killing anyone else. I don't think the guard would do much good then. =p




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#6 6 years ago

We had a police detachment in my high school and we had a whole police department in my University. Another high school in our district even had a school shooting, regardless of the police detachment, although, they did kill him. Point is, they don't care.

Crazy Wolf;5629231How? More cops on campus? They're already "gun-free zones", and the university is located in a very anti-gun city.

BUT IT IS A GUN FREE ZONE, MAN!


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#7 6 years ago

I don't think there is a good way to protect schools from shootings either. Too many schools, too many people to control.

Those millimeter-wave scanners used at airports might work. Automate the system to detect gun-like shapes and install them all over the place. Even then you can probably fool the system by wearing thick coats or disassembling your gun though.




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Red Menace;5629251We had a police detachment in my high school and we had a whole police department in my University. Another high school in our district even had a school shooting, regardless of the police detachment, although, they did kill him. Point is, they don't care. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=MrFancypants;5629257]I don't think there is a good way to protect schools from shootings either. Too many schools, too many people to control.

Those millimeter-wave scanners used at airports might work. Automate the system to detect gun-like shapes and install them all over the place. Even then you can probably fool the system by wearing thick coats or disassembling your gun though.

Bottom line is, no matter how prepared highschool's or university's are for something like this, there is no way anyone can predict what a fucking nut job is going to do. Even in the best of situations there will always be people who get through the system and cause mayhem.




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#9 6 years ago

Here's a more detailed story/ update upgrading the deaths to seven. The University in question is the Oikos University in Oakland, a private christian university founded by a Korean group. It is also unaccredited it appears. You can see this at their official website which has the option for Korean language, places an emphasis on the relationship of Korean-Americans to the United States, and of course religious-based doctrine. I'm not sure what particular congregation they go towards, but it doesn't seem to be tied to the more (in)famous and well-known Unification Church. The following article labels it as affiliated with the a "Praise to God Korean Church".

The police's description of the subject was an older man in his 40s. I read some saying he was Korean though this isn't in all updates. Might mean he had a connection to those in the institution somehow.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/03/us/fatal-shootings-at-oikos-university-in-oakland-calif.html

Several Dead in Shooting at School in California By MALIA WOLLAN and NORIMITSU ONISHI

OAKLAND, Calif. — A gunman opened fire on students and staff at a religious college here on Monday morning, killing seven people and wounding at least three more, the authorities said.

Shortly after the shootings, the suspect, described as a man in his 40s, was taken into custody outside a Safeway grocery in nearby Alameda, several miles from scene of the attack. Little else was known about his background or his motives.

The shooting occurred around 10:30 a.m. at Oikos University, a Christian college affiliated with a Korean-American church, Praise to God Korean Church, and located in a commercial and industrial area of East Oakland near Oakland International Airport where there many Korean-American businesses.

The suspect, who was believed to have acted alone, had been a nursing student at the college but was not enrolled at the time of the shooting, the university’s founder, Pastor Jong Kim, told The Oakland Tribune.

The police got the first word of the shootings at 10:30 a.m., said Officer Kevin McDonald, a spokesman for the Oakland Police Department.

Tashi Wangchuk, 38, a videographer from Richmond, Calif., said he went to the college after he got a call from his wife, Dechen, a nursing student at Oikos.

“My wife called and said, in a hushed voice, ’Call 911. There’s a shooting going on in here,’ “ he said. “She told me someone came in with a gun and started shooting randomly.”

Mr. Wangchuk’s wife, who was crouching inside a classroom with other students, said that the gunman shot through the door of the classroom before leaving the scene, her husband said. On Monday afternoon, she was still being held inside the university as the police locked down the area around the small college.

Relatives clustered outside the college, along a grassy median, trying to get word from the authorities about when their children, or spouses, would be released. What appeared to be four bodies were laid out, under sheets, on the median. The wounded had been taken away in ambulances.

Larry Reid, who is the president of the Oakland City Council and represents the district where the shooting occurred, said that there was one gunman.

“It’s just a sad day in my city whenever there’s a loss of life,” said Mr. Reid. “There are just too many guns in the hands of people who are not afraid to use them,” Mr. Reid said.

Gov. Jerry Brown, a former Oakland mayor, said in a statement: “The tragic loss of life at Oikos University today is shocking and sad. Our thoughts and prayers go out to the victims, their families and friends and the entire community affected by this senseless act of violence.”

According to the college’s Web site, “Oikos University was launched to provide highest standard education with Christian value and inspiration.” Oikos offers courses in music, nursing, English, Bible studies and other subjects. It caters largely to Korean and Korean-American students.

Deborah Lee, 25, who studies English as a second language at the university, said she was inside a classroom Monday morning. “I heard some gunshots and women screaming: ‘Somebody has a gun — run!’ ” Ms. Lee said.

She said she heard five or six gunshots. “My teacher yelled, ‘Run, run,’ and we all ran outside.”

Ms. Lee said she did not see the gunman. “I heard a pop, pop, pop sound and then girls screaming,” she said. Ms. Lee believed the shooting occurred in the same building as her classroom.

She said she was frightened, but added, “I’m a Christian and I believe God protects me.”

SWAT teams and heavily armed officers could be seen outside the college, near an armored vehicle belonging to the Oakland police.

Mary Ping, 47, said she got a call from an instructor at the university telling her that a shooting was under way. Ms. Ping said her 24-year-old daughter, Kathleen, works at Oikos University as a receptionist in the front office.

Ms. Ping said she received a phone call from the front office number shortly after 10:30 but was not able to answer it. She believes it was her daughter calling but has not heard anything from her since.

“No one is answering the front desk number now,” Ms. Ping said. “Somebody called me from that number. I think it was her and I think that means she’s alive, I can’t think about it more than that. It is too scary.”

Malia Wollan reported from Oakland, and Norimitsu Onishi from San Francisco.

Edit- the Los Angeles Times article I'm reading claims he was a former student.

A man suspected of killing seven people at a small religious college in Oakland on Monday is a former student who "stood up and began shooting” inside a classroom, Oakland's police chief said.

At a press conference, Chief Howard Jordan said the gunfire began in the classroom but that "shots were fired throughout the building." He said it's unclear whether the assailant targeted his victims or shot randomly. He said the police are not aware of a motive.

Witnesses described a heavy-set Asian man in his 40s calmly opening fire at the college in an industrial area near Oakland International Airport, which has a largely Korean student body of about 100.

The suspect was arrested at an Alameda shopping center a few miles from Oikos University.

The gunfire rang out after 10 a.m., sending students and faculty diving for cover and running for their lives.

Timothy Yi, pastor at the Hayward Korean Baptist Church, arrived at the scene in search of information about a member of his flock, Lydia Sim, 21, who was enrolled at the college. “We tried to call her and she didn’t answer,” Yi told The Times. He added, “I’m kind of shocked.”

Police officers held up a large white tarp to shield the work of coroner's officials as they moved the bodies of victims from a wide grassy median into a van. Strips of bright yellow crime-scene tape cordoned off the area, keeping onlookers a block away.

Larry Reid, Oakland’s City Council president who represents the part of the city where the college is located, expressed deep sorrow over the day’s “senseless violence … by an individual who has a gun and isn’t afraid to use it.”

“It’s just another sad day in my city,” Reid said.

Oakland Mayor Jean Quan said city officials spent the day reaching out to community members with support services. But she said, “There are still a lot of questions remaining.”

School officials told local media that the suspect may have been expelled from the school or dropped out.

According to its website, Oikos University is a Christian university "established specifically to serve the community of Northern California in general and San Francisco and Oakland areas in particular." The school is not far from Oakland International Airport and the Oakland Coliseum.




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Most of the above newspapers and sources have now identified the shooter as "One L. Goh", 42 years old. He was described by the institution president as having been a former student enrolled in their nursing program. Goh surrendered himself to the police after hijacking one of the victim's cars and driving it to a nearby Safeway market in nearby Alameda, where he turned himself into one of the employees.




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