Should Taiwan be allowed in the UN? 24 replies

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masked_marsoe VIP Member

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#1 12 years ago

BBC NEWS | Asia-Pacific | Taiwan applies for UN membership

Taiwan has submitted its first formal application to join the United Nations, a government spokesman has said.

The government in Taipei held the UN seat for China until 1971 when it was replaced by Beijing.

Obviously China isn't happy with this, but it looks to me like the Taiwanese government is looking more towards an end of the conflict of who owns China, and more towards a Taiwanese nation.

I believe they should take up a seat in the UN. (But I don't believe it will happen).




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#2 12 years ago

I'm all for the principle of self-determination and the UN seems to be the only organization that could try to enforce it so I voted "yes".




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#3 12 years ago

Yes, deffianaetly. Denying them wold only cause problems and anger the Tawanise government




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#4 12 years ago

I say yes, but that would likely upset China a teeny bit, as they would get their hands tied rather severely when it comes to "dealing" with Taiwan.




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#5 12 years ago

By now only 24 countries recognise the Republic of China (aka Taiwan). Taiwan has made a lot of progress in becoming a democratic state. It seems they have even abandoned the idea that they are the "true China" and officially apply for UN membership as "Taiwan"

Should we support the secessionist government (which actually represented the "official" China and was recognised by the UN until 1971)? Maybe. A peaceful reunification between the Republic of China (Taiwan) and the People's Republic of China is unlikely.

But is there actually a chance that the UN will officially recognise Taiwan? I don't think so. The People's Republic of China is one of the five permanent members of the UN Security council. Therefore it has a veto power on any UN resolution. I doubt that the PRC will freely recognise Taiwan in the near future.




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#6 12 years ago

What can Taiwan bring to the United Nations that would justify the risk of being bound to defend it? As I recall China vetoed the Mongolian People's Republic's application for membership in 1955, I see no reason why they wouldn't just veto Taiwan's application.




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#7 12 years ago

Being recognized as a sovereign nation is pretty much Taiwan's declaration of independence from the rest of China, a move which the PRC has said time and time again, is cassus belli, or in other terms, reason enough to declare war. The vote will no doubt be vetoed by the PRC and UN members pressured by the PRC to vote against the motion by means of its economic power. On a personal level, I believe its a good thing, they are practically separate nations already in all things but name, so why not make it official, eh? In the realm of geo-politics, its not likely to fly and the possibility of conflict is too much to risk while the US and Taiwan's other allies are busy elsewhere or otherwise unprepared for a PRC attack. Also the ROC armed forces are in a state of upgrading and purchasing, being on the cusp of upgrading their Patriot launchers to PAC-3 standard, and while being on the verge of purchasing 60+ F-16 C/D Block 52 aircraft.




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#8 12 years ago

I am all for Taiwan being accepted as a member of the UN but it will never happen as long as China has anyhting to say about it. I feel one of the main aims of China's military build up is to be able to stand toe to toe with the US over its National interests in Taiwan and Middle East.




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#9 12 years ago

Taiwan is recognised by 24 nations now - but its worth pointing out that many of these are small, poor Pacific Islands that Taiwan provides aid to. And unlike most Western aid, it comes without conditions, essentially cash in a briefcase.




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#10 12 years ago

I voted yes if only to stick it to China. I grew up hating commies and damned if i dont derive pleasure from their outrage.