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http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/osborne012707.htm

According to a pre-release article by Craig Covault, the upcoming 29 January 2007 issue of Aviation Week & Space Technology magazine will reveal that Iran has converted it’s North Korean-cloned Shahab-3 Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile into a satellite launch vehicle. According to a strategic analysis done by GlobalSecurity.Org, Iran conducted a successful test of its large IRIS solid propellant rocket motor in mid-2005. If these assessments are accurate, and there is no reason at this point to dismiss them, then the beast sitting on an Iranian launch pad today may very well be proof of the existence of Iran’s Shahab-6 Inter-Continental Ballistic Missile. The Shahab-6 is a weapon system specifically designed and capable of delivering an Iranian nuclear warhead to virtually anywhere on earth. It is a virtual clone of the North Korean Taepo-Dong 2C/3 ICBM which allegedly failed in a much publicized test in July 2006. [For the complete analysis click "read more" above"]

This technological leap is nothing less than stunning. Just twenty-two months ago, on March 17, 2005, the Director of the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency, made public a statement for the record to the Senate Armed Service Committee,

"We judge Iran will have the technical capability to develop an ICBM by 2015. It is not clear whether Iran has decided to field such a missile."

Such an astounding technological leap makes the sudden appearance of the Soviet Union’s orbiting Sputnik satellite in October 1957 absolutely pale in comparison. A little further back in the same text we read,

”Iran is likely continuing nuclear weapon-related endeavors in an effort to become the dominant regional power and deter what it perceives as the potential for US or Israeli attacks. We judge Iran is devoting significant resources to its weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missile programs.”

As referenced above, and based upon the physical reality sitting on an Iranian launch pad this morning, it would appear that the overall sum of the significant resources invested by Iran has more than adequately funded the long-term missile proliferation and advanced technology transfer programs of Red China, Russia, Pakistan, North Korea, as well as a few western nations. These technology transfers have enabled Iran to leap-frog at least 8 years worth of indigenous development, as well as prove totally inaccurate - if not make a complete mockery of - the best official, unclassified intelligence assessment from the U.S. Government yet made public about Iranian missile capabilities. In fact, such a flawed assessment brings into serious doubt the assessment regarding Iranian nuclear weapons progress.

I have been reading the 2004 assessment done by Aharon Etengoff, editor of the website weaponssurvey.com, entitled “2004 Middle East Nuclear Update”. This outstanding assessment by Etengoff, a former staffer with the IDF Spokesmen’s Office, covers both nuclear and missile developments for a host of Middle Eastern nations, including Iran. It is based upon open source intelligence (OSINT) media reporting. Within the past three years and having read these same OSINT reports (I read copious amounts of such data 24/7/365), and I arrived at the same assessments and have so stated them publicly and privately, as well as on this website. This document should be reviewed in its entirety by all interested parties.

Among some of the nuclear-related information within this body of research is the following gem. “In February 2004, media reports indicated that IAEA inspectors had discovered traces of polonium-210, an element that can be used as neutron initiator in certain designs of nuclear weapons. “ In light of recent events, the purposes and/or recent uses of this highly radioactive substance have been discussed by the Northeast Intelligence Network at length. Note the discovery of Polonium-210 in Iran occurred nearly three years ago. Since Iran is not known to possess a working nuclear reactor or particle accellerator - where from did Iran acquire this Polonium-210? Obviously, a nuclear materials proliferator. Russia, Red China, North Korea or even the AQ Khan nuclear proliferation network run from within Pakistan are not likely to confess to such transfers, but they are without question the most probable sources. Combine this knowledge with the nuclear weapon plutonium core to be produced at Iran’s Khondab heavy-water reactor in Arak, or highly enriched uranium (HEU), and know that its destiny lies in a warhead perched atop an Iranian Shahab-6 ICBM.

Regarding advanced missile technology proliferation Etengoff provides us with the following paragraph, an exceptional compilation of OSINT data. The bottom line assessment of this paragraph is exactly correct and the focus of this article.

“In October 2001, John Kyl, the ranking Republican on the Senate Sub-Committee on Technology, stated that China was providing Iran with the technology to mount nuclear warheads on missiles. In October 2002, Ha’aretz reported that North Korea was testing long-range missiles in Iran, and in June 2003, U.S. intelligence officials disclosed that North Korea was exporting missiles to Iran via air routes. In July 2003, an Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokesman confirmed that Iran had successfully conducted the final test of its Shahab 3 medium-range missile. In August 2003, a Japanese newspaper reported that North Korea was negotiating with Iran over the export of its Taepodong-2 long-range ballistic missile and the possibility of jointly developing nuclear warheads. In January 2004, the Iranian Defense Minister stated that Iran intended to become "the first Islamic country to find a way into the space beyond the Earth’s atmosphere with its own satellite and indigenous launch-system.” It should be noted that such a launch-system would be equivalent to long-range intercontinental ballistic missile capability, and would serve as a “civilian” cover for an advanced weapons system.”

Indeed it would. And now, according to the chairman of the Iranian parliament's National Security and Foreign Policy Commission, Mr. Alaoddin Boroujerdi, the obviously dual-purpose launch vehicle sitting on the Iranian launch pad "will liftoff soon". Sooner rather than later the Iranian Shahab-6 ICBM is close to becoming a reality. As twin American armadas of surface and sub-surface naval combatants approach the Persian Gulf region, I just have to wonder, is an Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense (BMD) cruiser or destroyer among the surface combatants? Interesting thought nonetheless. The fact is that the policy of the United States is that Iran will not be joining the ranks of nuclear weapons capable states – ever. Can we assume that the delivery vehicles of such Iranian weapons will be allowed to exist in 2007, or at least retarded long enough to fit the current 2015 DIA guesstimate? Stay tuned.

I aboslutley love it how people keep doubting us(well im not irani, us as in us being back warded peoples that dont advance), I guess Iran is about to finish up its greatest missile ever...I've got no clue but I think it MIGHT be able to reach the US main land correct? This will seriously hamper down the us government's tough attitude(well to be honest for the bad since I DO see a problem with this with shi'ites wanting revenge from the sunnies), Atleast someone is closing the gap with israel, the rest of the arabs are pussies.

How reliable is the source though?

My reactions are mixed. I love it how someone is closing the gap with israel, and this missle if ever completed MIGHT bring a little more balance in that region. What I do fear is Shi'ite vengence, and that the missiles might actually bring more war(might scare the shit outta of israel enough to get both countries in a war+allies)




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#2 11 years ago

If Iran comes out with the bomb then they will have proven to the rest of the world that the US was right when it was suggested that Iran is using it's reactors to manufacture WMDs. It might give them a tad bit more influence in its immediate area, but it will completely demolish its credibility with the rest of the world. They've been completely denying the allegations that the only reason for Russian equipped power plants was to produce weapons great plutonium.




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#3 11 years ago

True. But I am looking at it as a better delivering platform for OTHER weapons(non nuclear), maybe Biological or Chemical..hell even Explosive. But time will tell. If they do come out with nukes that really would ruin thier reputation.




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-DarthMaul-;3506657True. But I am looking at it as a better delivering platform for OTHER weapons(non nuclear), maybe Biological or Chemical..hell even Explosive. But time will tell. If they do come out with nukes that really would ruin thier reputation.

ICBM stands for Intercontinental Ballistic Missile. That article described their device as a delivery system for a satellite. Until they do a land test for a true ICBM like North Korea did this last summer, which failed, it can't be said they are that developed a threat. North Korea is supposedly more developed in their military technologies then Iran is. I think its safe to say North Korea will launch a successful ICBM test long before Iran does.




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#5 11 years ago

I wouldnt be too sure. Most of the times to advance you start off where others left off, you dont go start researching from scratch.




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#6 11 years ago

MAD only works if BOTH parties fear destruction. Totally ineffective if one of them doesnt...




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#7 11 years ago

I'm just waiting for the Israelis to do what really needs to be done, and surgically strike Iran's nuclear facilities and main military sites within range.

The only people who would be mad with this are: Syria (no match for Israel in a one-on-one fight), Hezbollah (there goes their supply of money and weapons), and Palestinian groups like Hamas wanting to cash in on a conflict to get some attention.

We'll see how things go anyways. Might just be another one of 'those' Iranian military tests, where they show off how shiny their new toy (aka future target) is and its actual complete lack of 'might'.




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#8 11 years ago

I don't know but one thing I know is that the President over there ....Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said taht Israel should not exist and be wipe off the face of the map. He also threatened the USA and Europe. I know he is very anti Israel. He said things like "The way to peace in the Middle East is the destruction of Israel." and other stuff. The destruction of Israel is a stated goal of the government of Iran. No telling what the future will bring.




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#9 11 years ago

-DarthMaul-;3506630http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/osborne012707.htm

I aboslutley love it how people keep doubting us(well im not irani, us as in us being back warded peoples that dont advance),

No offense, but didn't the article point out that this technological leap was only possible because of rather illegal technology-transfers?

I agree though that it is a big mistake of people to think that muslims are backwards. In fact such a thought is intself backwards according to moral standards we claim to have achieved in the West.




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Yes it did, it was reverse engineering north-korean missiles. Its still good :P

The only people who would be mad with this are: Syria (no match for Israel in a one-on-one fight), Hezbollah (there goes their supply of money and weapons), and Palestinian groups like Hamas wanting to cash in on a conflict to get some attention.

As much as sunnies are afraid of shi'ites, everyone in the mideast would be mad. The rest of the middle east still sees Iran as the only country with big enough balls to stand up to US aggression and Israeli terror/blackmail/whatever. Besides in a one-on-one conflict, wouldnt you actually be saying two-on-one, since the US is always still supplying Israel?(which didnt help israel much against hizbollah)

I'm just waiting for the Israelis to do what really needs to be done, and surgically strike Iran's nuclear facilities and main military sites within range.

Are they really gonna be able to attack ALL of the nuclear sites? that would take thier whole air force. or atleast a big chunk of it. Especially since your adding military bases in the equation, that would literally be an act of war that most other countries wont sit around and watch take hold.

We didnt even add Irani retaliation to the equation, or thier new Tor-M1s. Unlike Iraq(too afraid to do shit), Iran will retlaiate harshly.

The destruction of Israel is a stated goal of the government of Iran. No telling what the future will bring.

I'd like to see you quote the irani government where they say they are going to destroy israel.(As in It needs to be out of the mouth of the Supreme Leader, the Council of Guardians, or The Assembly of Experts.)