Well, they probably deserve respect for their selfdiscipline, but otherwise their stupidity makes it a bit hard to respect them, or do they cheat by surviving the training on drugs?
Why people want to stay in cold water to become something that many despise, to kill others and get paid for it is beyond me. It's another story if you do it to defend your country IMO, but the SEALs aren't exactly used for defence, are they?
Certainy SEALs are going to be better than normal troops in tasks those troops aren't specialized in and they are, but a SEAL is still only human, put him in as a normal army soldier and he won't be able to do much difference.
08'aIgnorance is not an excuse
28th November 2003
*SW3D3*I read as late as today that the Swedish SSG is way better trained than Navy Seals and SAS, the only problem is that they don't have as much combat experience as SAS and NS has. And that is a big problem.
I read that too, and I also think it's true.
To even search to the SSG you must be an Officer in a Jägar (Ranger) unit (Para, Coastal, Attack diver, Arctic or the Hussars, I think that's all of them). That means before you can evern search to the SSG you must first do your ordinary military service as a Jägare (wich is the hardest thing you can do in the Swedish armed forces, not counting SSG ofcourse), then you must go to Officer school to become an Jägar Officer, needless to say tough as hell too (I think ordinary officers can search, but almost everyone in SSG are from Jägar units).
Then you can search to the SSG.
SSG was formed in the early '90's, so yeah, they don't have as much combat experience as lets say SAS or NS. The head of SSG got France highest medal for thier "work" in Congo. Officially they've been in Congo and Afghanistan, but I don't doubt for a second that they've been in other countries too.
With that said Navy SEAL and most other SoF units in the world are far from pussies. All of them are hardcore mother f-ers and I wouldn't like to piss anyone of them off.
PS. The article in the first post seems to be very biased.
Same pretty much goes for SEALs, except there is no rank or previous unit requirement. If you want to try out, you are allowed to. If you can make it through Hell Week, then you are welcome to stay. Everyone else just leaves and heads back to their normal unit.
SFOD-D, Special Forces Operational Detachment - Delta, is our elite of elite. Going through the training is the most physically demading thing you will ever do in your life, from what I have read. I'm not even going to try to list off the procedure and prerequisite qualifications, but if you have any specific questions I will answer them.
Wanna go Double Dutch?
9th December 2003
Th article in the first post seems a bit biased, it makes some point but those made are to be expected. Special forces such as the SEALS or your countries equivelant (BBE here [ Bijzondere Bijstands Eenheid] and other's come to mind) al *should* have high failure rates, only the best of the best get in.
Ninety procent may look high but we can't say much about it unless we compare it to various other countries with units simular to the SEALS with simular high requirements.
No! I'm Spamacus!
17th June 2003
90%, so much to take into consideration... Maybe a lot more people try and get in and fail, maybe we just have mucher higher requirements. However, I have a slight problem with reading Geocities articles... ;)
AerisAmerica gets fatter by the year. :S
Not America, just USA :nodding:
It's the same f*cking thing!
America is not referring to the North American and South American states. It is a shortening of the name The United States of America. Understand? I hate having to do this every damn time someone makes this comment.
Yeah i can tell you that SFOD-D can easily stand toe to toe with the SAS.Easy. Most of our active duty delta units are combat hardend.
USMA2010It's the same f*cking thing!
I am sorry, but it is simply not the same thing, and you can not claim that people call America to the USA just to shorten the name because it would be easier to say USA, after all that was IS shorter.:rolleyes: But let us not steal this thread, if you want to continue this kinda pointless argument, please let us do so by PM.
The thread has no future anyways.
The American people, regardless of how much you think otherwise, is not going to start calling itself by another, false, name simply because some people from Canada and South America think it misrepresents our corner of the world.
The equation is simple, take off a few letters and tack on -ian, -can, or the like. We aren't going to go by United States of American, so deal with it.