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MrFancypants Forum Admin

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#11 11 years ago
colonel_bob;3825489 If she already knows how to drive, the difference here is between carrying a little plastic card or not. Getting a fancy piece of plastic isn't going to make someone a safer driver if they already know how to drive.

Unless said person is confronted with a situation he or she didn't encounter before but might have learned about in a driving-test.




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#12 11 years ago

Here in Denmark, you're allowed to drive 130 km/h in the highway. The surveillance on the highways is non-existent though, so I normally drive somewere between 150-160 km/h. I wouldn't cry if they dropped the speed limits on the highways. But I don't mind speed limits in the cities and outside schools.




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#13 11 years ago
MrFancypants;3825519Unless said person is confronted with a situation he or she didn't encounter before but might have learned about in a driving-test.

Haha, the driving test? Honestly, that prepares you for, well, almost nothing. The written part asks questions that everyone knows ("Which of these is the silhouette of a stop sign?") or questions that are basically useless ("What is the average stopping distance for a car traveling 45 mph?" Note: while it is good to know how far it's going to take for your car to stop, it's somewhat difficult to imagine the point 83 feet or whatnot in front of your car, and in practice totally impractical). I'm assuming of course that this person has been driving (unlicensed) for a while, in which case there's really no difference between them and someone that has been driving for a while with a license. The only way you can actually learn how to drive is by driving, taking some written test isn't going to help at all.




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#14 11 years ago
colonel_bob;3825489If she already knows how to drive, the difference here is between carrying a little plastic card or not. Getting a fancy piece of plastic isn't going to make someone a safer driver if they already know how to drive.

There is a big difference between knowing how to make a vehicle move and knowing how to drive safely. With a license it shows you have passed a test that proves you are competent to use the vehicle. With no license you don't have insurance so if you hit anything or anyone then there's no cover. And its uninsured drivers with no licenses that have accidents and push legal drivers insurance cost up. so again :moon:




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#15 11 years ago
colonel_bob;3825777Haha, the driving test? Honestly, that prepares you for, well, almost nothing. The written part asks questions that everyone knows ("Which of these is the silhouette of a stop sign?") or questions that are basically useless ("What is the average stopping distance for a car traveling 45 mph?" Note: while it is good to know how far it's going to take for your car to stop, it's somewhat difficult to imagine the point 83 feet or whatnot in front of your car, and in practice totally impractical). I'm assuming of course that this person has been driving (unlicensed) for a while, in which case there's really no difference between them and someone that has been driving for a while with a license. The only way you can actually learn how to drive is by driving, taking some written test isn't going to help at all.

Well then your tests suck. I learned a lot during my driving-lessons and those tests that I probably wouldn't have figured out in a fraction of a second when first encountering it on my own.

Take your example for stopping-distances, it's probably better to have a rough idea of how much space you need than to just guess whenever you have to brake. I'm sure that a beginner will guess the distance wrong when first doing a full braking on a slightly wet road.




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#16 11 years ago

I don't want some moron doing 110mph through the centre of town, there should certainly be speed limits for that sort of place.

As for others - the faster you go the harder a car gets to control, and the less time you have to react. If you've had the proper training or are used to it then you can deal with it, and were everyone like that then you wouldn't need speed limits on the motorways. But most people drive by following the car in front, they don't watch the road and predict what's going to happen in the next 5-15 seconds or so. They watch the car in front and copy it. Heck I've even seen some morons overtake in convoys of five cars into opposing traffic on a blind bend against the horizon, just because they could see that the first car hadn't been hit yet, so of course it must be safe to follow :rolleyes:

The speed limit could do with being raised in some areas, lowered in some more, and smoothed out a bit across others - but considering the standard of people's driving these days I couldn't really advocate removing the speed limit even on the motorways even if just for the sort of thinking it would encourage in others. Most people drive really really badly, when they can drive properly they can be rewarded with faster roads.




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#17 11 years ago
goody10;3825785There is a big difference between knowing how to make a vehicle move and knowing how to drive safely. With a license it shows you have passed a test that proves you are competent to use the vehicle. With no license you don't have insurance so if you hit anything or anyone then there's no cover. And its uninsured drivers with no licenses that have accidents and push legal drivers insurance cost up. so again :moon:[/quote] The only way you can know how to drive safely is through experience. Not through tests or classroom courses, but by being on the road and driving. And I agree on the insurance thing, getting in a wreck without insurance is a jackass move. [quote=MrFancypants;3825846]Well then your tests suck. I learned a lot during my driving-lessons and those tests that I probably wouldn't have figured out in a fraction of a second when first encountering it on my own.

I see you're from Germany. So, you're right. Our tests over here do suck, haha. I'd say at least half of the 16 year olds that start driving over here (with a license, mind you) have no idea what they're doing.




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#18 11 years ago
colonel_bob;3825990 I see you're from Germany. So, you're right. Our tests over here do suck, haha. I'd say at least half of the 16 year olds that start driving over here (with a license, mind you) have no idea what they're doing.

Well, if it's any comfort, most of the people here forget everything they learned for those tests anyway after a few months :)




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#19 11 years ago

So basically we've established that there should pretty much be a speedlimit through the city and that they should be relaxed on the freeway. That's all well and good but at 11 o'clock at night when no one is driving on the main roads in the suburbs why should the speed limit continue to be 45 mph? I mean in the height of rush hour traffic it moves around 50 mph. Gets me every time so i end up speeding alot infact almost 95 percent of the time I drive.




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#20 11 years ago

To FancyPants and that other random dude who I don't feel like getting the name of:

I know how to drive just fine. I've been driving since I was 10 or so, my dad was a professional driver--I drove all the time. I've taken Driver's Ed as well, and passed with flying colors. I just haven't got around to going to the DMV to wait around for 3-4 hours until I have a car of my own.