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NiteStryker

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#41 16 years ago

Cataphract Yes, sometimes they are. I am sorry to break the foundation of your happy little world where everything is perfect except for the big bad republicans! We are SOOO mean..... roll%20eyes%20(sarcastic).gif I wasn't blaming anyone right there. I was merely commenting about how some people think the UN exists merely as an opponent of the United States. [/QUOTE] Who thinks that? I dont,....

Cataphract So liking war is immature? Both my grandfathers served in the military, one in the Pacific During WWII, and the other an Admiral in the Navy. I know about war, because both my grandfathers fought in them. I am going to become a Marine. We arnt the irrational gun-slingers you think we are. Some of us know what we are talking about. Do you?

I agree that war is an interesting subject. But those who wish war upon themselves so that they can live their nationalist commando "do or die" fantasy are immature. They don't understand what war is really like. [/QUOTE] I will agree that some people just play counter strike and think 'ah how cool! Thats what war is like! Ima do that!'....but there is a difference between them and me....I have run real Marine Corps obsticle courses, heard stories from my grandfathers, etc.

Cataphract Not if you believe people like me are just immature war-game players. I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about other people that are typically younger than you and bring their militaristic gun-toting ignorance to the Pub with them and usually just post like one or two times before being humiliated. You know the type I'm talking about. [/QUOTE] Ok I apoligize then. I thought u ment me. My mistake.

[QUOTE=Cataphract] Ah there we go again....its the evil conservitives, isnt it. Its always our fault. We are the ones to blame yet again.... roll%20eyes%20(sarcastic).gif

I wasn't saying ANYTHING bad about conservatives right there! I was merely pointing out the fact that most conservatives don't like the idea of a "world government". And yes, this is a fact. I wasn't making any value judgments about conservatives though.

Yes, that is a fact, and kind of the logic behind the conserivitism belief. We want smaller government. You (leftists) want a larger government. Its our nature. [QUOTE=Cataphract] If the UN does something wrong, the people have a right to call them on it. Yes, they do. Just like the people have a right to call Bush on things that he does wrong. But what I was talking about was those people that somehow someway always seem to find the root of any problem in the UN, France, liberals, Democrats, protesters, etc.
But what if there are actually problems with those people? The UN has this oil-for-food issue, France can be tied with that, you see where I am going? [QUOTE=Cataphract] And by the way, you really don't have any right to imply that I'm naïve, child. Who are you to call me naïve? Haha.

I wasnt calling anyone naiave... :lookaround:




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#42 16 years ago

Yes, that is a fact, and kind of the logic behind the conserivitism belief. We want smaller government. You (leftists) want a larger government. Its our nature. Ah yes. But by wanting "larger government" we don't necessarily want larger government than already exists now, but larger government than conservatives want. One can desire a scaling-back of government and a simplification of tax laws (as I do) while still being liberal. But what if there are actually problems with those people? The UN has this oil-for-food issue, France can be tied with that, you see where I am going? Yeah, I know. You think I won't blame the UN if I see a problem? You think I won't blame France if I see a problem? The problem I have is with those who assign blame to the UN, France, Democrats, etc where no blame is due.




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#43 16 years ago

NiteStryker(on US vs UN) Who thinks that?[/QUOTE]

Quite a few forumites, including the original poster come across with this attitude.

[QUOTE=Buddy Jesus]I would also like to know if the UN has done anything upstanding and right and unbiased since the Korean War?

Cambodia is one region that immediately springs to mind. They still have UN personnel there advising Khmers on dangers such as land mines and cluster bombs.




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#44 16 years ago

omfg there would be too much to quote here , so i dont do it at all -_-

its really alarming how stupid you guys are .......do you really think a social government is the same as "socialism" ?! Do you think germany or france are socialism states? I mean omg O_O are you guys living in trees or something? To give you a hint that means just that we dont let people die infront of our hospitals , cause they aint got insurance...

The UN voted against your moron leader to kill innocents for oil , and now your pissed ? The day i heard about that "FRENCH FRIES" now are called "FREEDOM FRIES" i laughed my ass off :DD ! And you guys say you dont belive everything your government wants you to believe :D! The military is just a tool for stupids and gready leaders to get more money, property or prestige or wahtever! Its not whise to be in one at all , so dont refer to your oh so great ancestors fightin and /or loosing their lives for nothing more then property! "Its our planet and theres nothing but us , and we look at ourselves, killing each other and stealing everyone's property" ....WAR IS NOT A GOOD THING AT ALL ! If you really believe war is something good your just a kid ...and you dont know better...but trust me you will wake up some time ...actually i hope so

And omg i have to agree with cataphract :) thats ....i didnt thought the day comes :D no srlsly dude you sound pretty smart when you not reffering to that "book" ;)

And someone said he doesnt like countries wich give their government too much might .....uhmm...srlsy dude In the case of the US of freakin A it would be good if your government had more to say than bush ( more to break in his plans) ! and the UN does nothing good?....HAHAHHAAHAH omfg ...yeah its build to make europens ect HATE AMERICANS!! .....ahahahAHAHAAH

to the topic ...well i dont know much about the sudan thing , so i dont dare to judge anyone there....but all i know is that my countrie is paying a lot of taxes (our money) ...and many many countries that are in the UN too...so just shut it you do nothing, but following your own interests...




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#45 16 years ago
tetsuAnd omg i have to agree with cataphract :) thats ....i didnt thought the day comes :D no srlsly dude you sound pretty smart when you not reffering to that "book" ;)

He's sounded smart in pretty much every post of his I've seen. Being religious doesn't necessarily mean you're an idiot, you know.




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#46 16 years ago

tetsu omfg there would be too much to quote here , so i dont do it at all -_- [/QUOTE] Eh I got some time so I'll break down your post.

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tetsu ts really alarming how stupid you guys are .......do you really think a social government is the same as "socialism" ?! [/QUOTE] No not always. :kerian:

tetsu Do you think germany or france are socialism states? I mean omg O_O are you guys living in trees or something?[/QUOTE] Why u gotta bring trees into this man? :cort:

tetsu To give you a hint that means just that we dont let people die infront of our hospitals , cause they aint got insurance... [/QUOTE] Ah yes but your waiting lines for operations are as long as our lines at the department of Motor vehicles...and you loose more of your paycheck to society.

tetsu The UN voted against your moron leader to kill innocents for oil , and now your pissed ? [/QUOTE] Show proof that its for oil....

Thats what I love about stupid liberals. They make stupid accusations (I.e: the war was for oil)....and cant prove it!

tetsu The day i heard about that "FRENCH FRIES" now are called "FREEDOM FRIES" i laughed my ass off :DD ! And you guys say you dont belive everything your government wants you to believe :D! [/QUOTE] The France boycott, I believe, was not started by the government.

tetsu The military is just a tool for stupids and gready leaders to get more money, property or prestige or wahtever! [/QUOTE] With all due respect...you have no idea what the hell you are talking about. You obviously believe any liberal propoganda you hear in great depth.

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tetsu Its not whise to be in one at all , so dont refer to your oh so great ancestors fightin and /or loosing their lives for nothing more then property! [/QUOTE] You sound like quite the socialist...our grndfathers fought against OPRESSION...not for property. You think the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor cuz THEY wanted Hawaii?

[QUOTE=tetsu] "Its our planet and theres nothing but us , and we look at ourselves, killing each other and stealing everyone's property" ....WAR IS NOT A GOOD THING AT ALL !

Oh cry me a river kid. You seem to be obsessed with your 'property' issue you think we all (but dont) have.

[QUOTE=tetsu] If you really believe war is something good your just a kid ...and you dont know better...but trust me you will wake up some time ...actually i hope so

Considering I know more about war than you do unless you have actually fought in one, you are wrong again,

[QUOTE=tetsu] And omg i have to agree with cataphract :) thats ....i didnt thought the day comes :D no srlsly dude you sound pretty smart when you not reffering to that "book" ;)

And now a rag on religion. Jeez there is no pleasing you is there? You saying that only the secularists are smart? Because thats the biggest lie sense 'we went to war for oil'...

[QUOTE=tetsu] And someone said he doesnt like countries wich give their government too much might .....uhmm...srlsy dude In the case of the US of freakin A it would be good if your government had more to say than bush

(1) Take the extra second and spell 'seriously' out... (2) If would be good if you had the most remote idea of what you were talking about.

[QUOTE=tetsu] ( more to break in his plans) ! and the UN does nothing good?....HAHAHHAAHAH omfg ...yeah its build to make europens ect HATE AMERICANS!! .....ahahahAHAHAAH

:cort: You need to step OUT OF THE STARBUCKS for a few seconds...the fumes have destroyed your ability to think rationally.

[QUOTE=tetsu] to the topic ...well i dont know much about the sudan thing , so i dont dare to judge anyone there....

Hey! smart mode kid!

[QUOTE=tetsu] but all i know is that my countrie is paying a lot of taxes (our money)

Thats usually what taxes are....money from the people :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=tetsu] ...and many many countries that are in the UN too...so just shut it you do nothing, but following your own interests...

Thats completly stupid....

We should shut up if we are looking out for ourselves? Why?

If it were my country, (The US), I would say 'cept for Britian, §§§§ the rest of the world!'....the world is pissed at the US, but without the US, the world would be hurting for awhile. The US should just back out of everything and go into isolationalism. Dont help anyone. Dont give relief money to Africa, pull troops from iraq, from the middle Korea de-militarized zone, dont give any aid to anyone. Thats what we outta do. Cept for Britian. Britian is cool.

Then see how the world hates us now when their economies are hurting. Then when they are in the worst dpots, just stick our tongues at them.

It wont happen but it would be a good idea if it did.




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#47 16 years ago

LoL you crazy americans and your beliefs of having freedom. UN is not corrupted, im not afraid to say this... the US is corrupted. DONT START A WAR IN ANOTHER COUNTRY WHEN THERE'S MAD RACISTS AND RAPISTS M.J. *cough* so dont come start a forum on another country being corrupted, take that you comunists! :angry: Oh and by the way im not american, im a hispanic guy living under a sucky administration(bush) and I am NOT proud to be a "emerican"




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#48 16 years ago
mrtigerLoL you crazy americans and your beliefs of having freedom. UN is not corrupted, im not afraid to say this... the US is corrupted. DONT START A WAR IN ANOTHER COUNTRY WHEN THERE'S MAD RACISTS AND RAPISTS M.J. *cough* so dont come start a forum on another country being corrupted, take that you comunists! :angry: Oh and by the way im not american, im a hispanic guy living under a sucky administration(bush) and I am NOT proud to be a "emerican"

If you don't like America, then please move. We do not want you here. Freedom is a good belief to have. It isn't a crazy belief. UN is corrupted, I am afraid to say. The US is also corrupted. So is every other country on this planet. What does mad racists and rapist, like Michael Jackson, have to do with war? We are capitalist, which is the opposite of communist. Nice try though, I think you accidently spelled capitalist wrong, so it is okay. You are excused. If you are living here in America, you are an American. Unless you are an illegal immigrant, in which case you can give me your address so I can turn you in.




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#49 16 years ago

NiteStryker Ah yes but your waiting lines for operations are as long as our lines at the department of Motor vehicles...and you loose more of your paycheck to society.[/QUOTE]

Bull, my grandfather didn't even have to wait a day for his operation. And even IF all what I hear on the internet (lol) about the Canadian healthcare is true, your conclusion shouldn't be that all socialist healthcare is like that.

NiteStryker Thats what I love about stupid liberals. They make stupid accusations (I.e: the war was for oil)....and cant prove it![/QUOTE]

And I love - American - conservatives: "France is stupid because, eh, they lost wars! Yeah, stupid..."

NiteStryker With all due respect...you have no idea what the hell you are talking about. You obviously believe any liberal propoganda you hear in great depth. [/QUOTE]

Then what is the purpose of professional armies (except militias, but they're not professional)? To love?

[QUOTE=NiteStryker] Considering I know more about war than you do unless you have actually fought in one, you are wrong again

Why would you know more about war than he?

[QUOTE=NiteStryker] If it were my country, (The US), I would say 'cept for Britian, §§§§ the rest of the world!'....the world is pissed at the US, but without the US, the world would be hurting for awhile. The US should just back out of everything and go into isolationalism.

Try it: go to Bush and tell him about your plan. I dare you! You would hurt the economy of pretty much every country in the world (especially China), but your own economy would totally collapse. Your economy has developed from one mainly based on production (before and during WWII) to one based on money. The same has happened with most countries in Europe (including Belgium), though - since you took over - we're trying our best to repair the economy. This means that everything depends on imports (look at the figures, the US is the biggest importer in the world, not exporter) and cooperation with other countries.

If you go into isolationism, where will you get your food? Cars? Don't come up with 'we'll make them ourselves'. It takes time to do such a thing. Sure, other economies will miss your money. But money is just a piece of paper. Other countries will take the place of the US as investors, and the already existent industries will start producing again.

[QUOTE=NiteStryker] Dont give relief money to Africa

About ONE procent of Americas budget goes to worldaid - so how much would go to Africa? Compare that to the military spending. This provides a problem for Irak btw. You need international help to rebuild the country, because your dollars go to your own country (well, that's pretty logical) and the military.




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#50 16 years ago
SpiderGoatBul And I love - American - conservatives: "France is stupid because, eh, they lost wars! Yeah, stupid..."

That is a generalization. I would say stupid conservatives come up with arguments like that. Not all American conservatives.