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EON_MagicMan

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#1 12 years ago

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051219/ap_on_he_me/switzerland_assisted_suicide

LAUSANNE, Switzerland - A Swiss hospital has agreed to let an assisted-suicide organization help terminally ill patients take their own lives on its premises.

A spokesman for the Vaud University Hospital Center confirmed reports in Swiss newspapers Saturday that, starting in January, it would let the Exit society assist in the suicide of people already admitted to the hospital who can no longer go home. The hospital will not accept people whose only goal in entering "is to prepare to end his life," said Alberto Crespo, who is responsible for law and ethics at the hospital. "The purpose of a hospitalization remains therapeutic treatment." Exit is allowed to help terminally ill Swiss residents commit suicide elsewhere in Switzerland. Depending on local law, the suicides sometimes take place in a designated apartment or the patient's home. Crespo said his hospital was the first of five university hospitals in Switzerland to work with Exit. Switzerland's policy is passive assistance to terminally ill people who have expressed a wish to die. Elsewhere in Europe, Netherlands legalized euthanasia in 2001 and Belgium in 2002. Britain passed a a law in December 2004 allowing living wills — documents that allow people to specify their medical treatment if they become seriously ill and lose the capacity to decide. France enables the terminally ill or those with no hope of recovery to refuse treatment in favor of death. Doctors are allowed to administer painkillers, even if their secondary effects include shortening patients' lives. The law stops short of allowing euthanasia. Europe's top human rights body rejected euthanasia as a legitimate means to end life in April. In the United States, Oregon voters approved the first physician-assisted suicide law in the United States in 1994. The law took effect after an appeals court lifted a block in 1997, but it is under legal challenge.

Good, I think it's a step in the right direction. If someone wants to die, let them do so. The only thing I can see wrong with this is possible abuse of the system (signing for someone) and other little kinks.




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#2 12 years ago

What about those that are mentally ill but still wish there death? Or the criminals that would rather die in a hospital than jail?




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#3 12 years ago

If they want to die then ok, but I think only in certain circumstances like if the patient is going to be in excruciating pain until they die.




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#4 12 years ago
nowheremanWhat about those that are mentally ill but still wish there death?

When I lived in Oregon there were some very strict laws about when assisted suicide was legal. I believe the requirements are something like multiple doctors agreeing you have only a few months left, though I don't know the details. Mental tests are also requirements here, I am sure it would be the same there.

Or the criminals that would rather die in a hospital than jail?

If they are terminally ill they would most likely die long before being executed, at least in the U.S.




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#5 12 years ago

Yeah, exactly. It only applies to the terminally ill. If you're sure you want to die, and you've said your good-byes, why not? It's better to skip all that excruciating stuff.




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#6 12 years ago

I don't think teaching our doctors to kill people is a particularly great idea. In Holland there are rumors of them being overeager to terminate critically ill or elderly patients. And lets say it does work. What's keeping the system from being abused?




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#7 12 years ago

What do people have against euthanasia?

Better to go out with some dignity left, if there's no other option but to die and it's going to be a terrible experience, then the sooner the better. When my grandfather was in hospital this year, he made it clear that once he crossed a certain point, he wanted us to stop his lifesupport and treatment. He lasted a long time too, saying goodbye to everyone he could, and we all knew when he was ready to die. The doctors knew that they could make him last a bit longer, but even they could see that in the end, it would amke no difference, and his cheif doctor felt relieved that my grandfather had made that choice, becuase it wasn't going to get any better.

Euthanasia (or even 'assisted suicide') does not mean that doctors are murdering people. Everyone has a right to life, why can't they have a right to end that life?

Machiavelli's Apprentice: I would say witnessed/approved in all good judgement two or three doctors (and maybe a laywer) would be enough. I would imagine that people would also put into their wills or some other official document that they would want this to happen, just as some people have "Do not resussitate" tattooed onto their chests.




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#8 12 years ago

Nothing wrong with this, it has been legal in the Netherlands to commit euthanasia for a couple of years now already. If somebody wants to end his or her own life why shouldn't we offer them a clean solution rather then either keep on suffering a unwanted life or using a questionable method such as suicide? Also with euthanasia the family can prepare for it and it will be less of a shock.

Ofcourse there should be certain regulations so prevent people from ending their life when they don't know what they are doing or to prevent any other form of abuse that is obvious. No doctor or family member should be allowed to force euthanasia upon somebody.

Doctors may advocate it's use (as they already do now somtimes "Sorry but your parnter will never reach consciousness again, you might wish to consider pulling the plug" and Family member should be allowed to request it's use but only if they are the legal guardian and the person at hand is unable to make the decision him or herself. The doctors/experts ( a group obviously, no doctor should be abl to commit such an action all by him/herself) should then look into the case themselfs and be allowed to refuse the request if they think it is without sufficient reasons.

Machiavelli's ApprenticeI don't think teaching our doctors to kill people is a particularly great idea. In Holland there are rumors of them being overeager to terminate critically ill or elderly patients.

:lol: You mean "rumors say that in the Netherlands they are overeager to terminate critically ill or elderly patients". This is a rumour concering the Netherlands and not a national (Dutch) rumor. ;)

And that bein said it's a rumor. Some people who went to travel the whole Route 66 multiple times had to hear from Americans wether it was true or not that we executed all eldery and mentally ill at will. Those people where like "WTF?! Who told you that BS and how did you even bought it?!" . :lol:

Obviously there are VERY STRICT regulations to prevent any abuse, no family member or doctor can commit euthanasia all by him herself. Several parties are involved which all consist of multiple people. Abuse is pretty much next to impossible unless the patient, several of his/her closest family members and a group of several experts being in one big conspiracy. :n0e: People who think it's easy to commit euthanasia make me laugh.




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#9 12 years ago
Machiavelli's Apprentice And lets say it does work. What's keeping the system from being abused?

That shouldn't happen in a well-regulated system. In the last eight years in Oregon only about 200 people have used doctor-assisted suicide.




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#10 12 years ago

I think it's a step in the right way. Those really sick and terminally ill people should be able to choose if they want to die or live a little longer and hope for a miracle. Freedom of choice my friends.




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