Well, this is different. A Syrian refugee that police discovered to have numerous components and plans for attacking German locations has been apprehended after a two day manhunt. But the twist here is that it wasn't police that ultimately caught him; it was an effort by refugees themselves.
Jaber al-Bakr, the suspect, posted on an online forum asking for lodging near Leipzig. Two Syrians decided to take him in, except they set up a trap to capture him. They tied him up with electrical cords, and after confirming his identity one of them went to the local police whilst the other stayed behind to watch the suspect. Al-Bakr, desperate to get away, even offered the man a bribe of a thousand euros, which he turned down.
Voice of joy and sunshine
26th May 2003
To be honest, I don't find this particularly surprising beyond the dramatics involved in the actual event. The best intelligence about actual threats, (rather than people the security services equip and then arrest - who never had a realistic chance of presenting a threat save for the assistance said security service gave them,) almost always comes from a peaceable community in which those threats happen to be embedded. That counter terrorism often seems dead set on making enemies of those people or alienating them is a special kind of stupid. ¬_¬
I don't find it surprising either. I hope these two men are going to be getting a lot of glory. Show their compatriots that helping foil this shit, and helping protect society, is something that the public appreciates. This is a fantastic PR opportunity that I hope German uses.
Voice of joy and sunshine
26th May 2003
Let people know society gives you a big bag of cash and lets you sneak off into obscurity if you want to too. Ya' know, conflicting motives at play. Some people want glory and are fine with the target being painted on their back. Other people are ... 'less enthused' ... about the idea of being skinned alive and hung from a bridge as one of the more easily interpreted pieces of modern art.
2nd May 2016
I cannot locate this story on the BBC news site. Where did you find it?
Follow A Paranoid
25th November 2006
"Serio"I don't find it surprising either. I hope these two men are going to be getting a lot of glory. Show their compatriots that helping foil this shit, and helping protect society, is something that the public appreciates. This is a fantastic PR opportunity that I hope German uses.
Yeah as if that's gonna suddenly erase the string of terror attacks and gang rapes all of a sudden.
"Lord Rumpuss V"Yeah as if that's gonna suddenly erase the string of terror attacks and gang rapes all of a sudden.
It doesn't erase the crimes committed by individuals, no. It might help prevent future crimes by encouraging integration and adoption of western values, though.
Wanna go Double Dutch?
9th December 2003
Nothing surprising about it, most of us human beings are not monsters so turning in a nutjob should not surprise anyone. What is more surpsing is that the police did not act when one of those men called the police to say they had him. And even at the police station the officers were at first questioning his story... Could have been one big fail if those two men decided not to bother hoding the suspect any longer (or if he escaped the appartment) if the police didn't care to show up soon enough or at all.
7th December 2003
The guy apparently had 1.5 kg of explosives (self-made military grade) and was very close to attacking an airport. Authorities claim they used information obtained from merging various network data (possible delivered by the US) to identify the terrorist, so politicians immediately started pushing for less privacy and more surveillance. Authorities also screwed up the initial arrest somehow.
It is good that Syrians turned him in, but I don't think that will make much of an impression on public opinion. There has been a series of attempted attacks by refugees and fringe right-wing parties are having a field-day. We have been very lucky that the terrorists were rather inept so far. There is not much the authorities can do, those people who came in with the refugees with the intention to do something nasty are very difficult to track. If the number of incidents continues at the current rate we will experience a Paris or Belgium style attack within the next 2-3 years for sure. That will probably have a big political impact; either the current parties shift to the right (already happening to some extent) or the right-wing parties gain sufficient power to be part of the next government.
Faktrl is Best Pony
10th September 2007
They've got their hands full. I think the refugees are smart enough to recognize the only way they can integrate into the society that allowed them shelter is to help that society in any way they can.
"I'd shush her zephyr." ~ Zephyr.