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#1 10 years ago

So,what is everyone's opinions on Taiwan? I just happened to have randomly gone to the wikipedia article while clicking around (I started at the article on photographic memory, and an hour or so later I was at Taiwan, figure that one out.) As everyone knows the PRC still considers Taiwan an integral part of it's territory, not as a seperate nation. The ROC, on the other hand, still maintain that they have claim to the mainland as well as Taiwan. So what do you think is the best way to solve this dilemma? Should Taiwan be a seperate nation? Or should the "One China" policy be carried out in one way or another.




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#2 10 years ago

In principle people should be able to decide themselves which nation they want to belong to. I don't think many people in Taiwan are very keen on joining the Chinese.

In practice the current situation of Taiwan being independent in everything but on paper seems to work quite well. No reason to risk a war with China just to get an official statement.




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#3 10 years ago

Taiwan is better off with the People's Republic of China.




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#4 10 years ago

Aright, I'll chime in with my personal thoughts.

Generally I agree with Fancypants. I think Taiwan deserves freedom, but as it essentially has that in all but name things aren't too bad. Ultimately I hope they are able to eventually able to garner some more support and standing in the international community.

I agree we shouldn't risk a war with China just to get that freedom down on paper, but I think a slower process going through the U.N. would work.




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#5 10 years ago

Even if unrealistic, I think it'd be better if all of China would be under ROC rule, for unlike the PRC, the ROC is at least democratic.




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#6 10 years ago

What if I'd wish to declare my house an independent nation; or a city; a county? With myself as the ultimate arbiter of justice within that nation. Simply allowing them independence on the grounds that they want it opens up for any man the possibility to ignore the rule of law whenever he will.




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#7 10 years ago
Nemmerle;4802319What if I'd wish to declare my house an independent nation; or a city; a county? With myself as the ultimate arbiter of justice within that nation. Simply allowing them independence on the grounds that they want it opens up for any man the possibility to ignore the rule of law whenever he will.

There is a difference between several million people on an island remaining independent from a conquering nation compared to a single man declaring it.




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#8 10 years ago
Afterburner;4802329There is a difference between several million people on an island remaining independent from a conquering nation compared to a single man declaring it.

Maybe so but you've yet to say what that difference is and on what new grounds you are going to assert their authority to independence.




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#9 10 years ago

I wouldn't mind seeing an independent Taiwan. I know the PRC would declare war if they ever did declare "independence". Their current de-facto independence seems to work well, but if they ever wanted to formally declare independence, the US would have to place 2-3 CBGs in the area, missile defence systems on high alert, and have the balls to stand up to those commies (well, sorta commie bastards).




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#10 10 years ago

The US won't allow Taiwan to out-and-out declare independence because it could not handle the commitment it made under Cunt Bush to defend Taiwan. The Chinese would fuck over any US forces and Taiwanese forces that opposed them if it had to.