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#191 9 years ago
Stryker500;5327123I'm clearly not going to change your opinion, and you certainly aren't going to change mind. So I might as well let you boys get back to this circle jerk about how such intelligent liberals you are and how Texas should be given to Mexico.

Your arguments suck, have no basis in fact, and here you go retreating from the playground to take your ball home.

Thanks for your contribution to the Pub. :mihailhatesu:




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#192 9 years ago

Stryker500;5327123No and I never implied having a secular government means that. In fact protecting freedom to express one's religion was the main goal here.[/QUOTE]

But that doesn't mean that this nation is a Christian nation, and saying that liberals want a secular nation like the Soviet Union implies you don't like the idea.

Stryker500;5327123 I believed I clearly stated I wouldn't be asking here for help interpreting the bible. Hell, an acquaintance of mine probably knows more than the Pope himself, I'd ask him. [/QUOTE]

Uhhhh what else would "do not go to public go to thy closet to pray" mean? We might as well say the ten commandments were all just made on opposite day.

[QUOTE=Stryker500;5327123] Yet have any of us seen the actual wording of the textbook to confirm such a statement?

Yes, if you were tuned in for the original bump of the thread

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CURRENT ITEM / STUDENT EXPECTATION (6) History. The student understands significant events, social issues, and individuals of the 1920s. The student is expected to: (A) analyze causes and effects of events and social issues , such as immigration, Social Darwinism, race relations, nativism, the Red Scare, Prohibition, and the changing role of women; and (B) analyze the impact of significant individuals such as Clarence Darrow, William Jennings Bryan, Henry Ford, Glenn Curtiss, Marcus Garvey,and Charles A. Lindbergh. RECOMMENDED CHANGE A) analyze causes and effects of events and social issues , such as immigration, Social Darwinism, eugenics, race relations, nativism, the Red Scare, Prohibition, and the changing role of women; JUSTIFICATION from War Against the Weak, by Edward Black, 2003: In the first three decades of the 20th Century, American corporate philanthropy combined with prestigious academic fraud to create the pseudoscience eugenics that institutionalized race politics as national policy. The goal: create a superior, white, Nordic race and obliterate the viability of everyone else. How? By identifying so-called "defective" family trees and subjecting them to legislated segregation and sterilization programs. The victims: poor people, brownhaired white people, African Americans, immigrants, Indians, Eastern European Jews, the infirm and really anyone classified outside the superior genetic lines drawn up by American raceologists. The main culprits were the Carnegie Institution, the Rockefeller Foundation and the Harriman railroad fortune, in league with America's most respected scientists hailing from such prestigious universities as Harvard, Yale and Princeton, operating out of a complex at Cold Spring Harbor on Long Island. The eugenic network worked in tandem with the U.S. Department of Agriculture, the State Department and numerous state governmental bodies and legislatures throughout the country, and even the U.S. Supreme Court. They were all bent on breeding a eugenically superior race, just as agronomists would breed better strains of corn. The plan was to wipe away the reproductive capability of the weak and inferior. Ultimately, 60,000 Americans were coercively sterilized — legally and extra-legally. Many never discovered the truth until decades later. Those who actively supported eugenics include America's most progressive figures: Woodrow Wilson, Margaret Sanger and Oliver Wendell Holmes.

[QUOTE=Stryker500;5327123] McCarthy was a man like any other, he had his flaws but he wasn't impaling heads outside of congress. Point out how he took things too far no doubt, but the man shouldn't be demonized, especially when men like Ted Kennedy are treated like saints.

The thing is, is that he was insane, he kept trying his McCarthyism even after he became unpopular in Congress and in America, when any reasonable person can tell he's a politician feeding on paranoia, the guy had a laundry receipt and said that it was a list of the US Communist party members.




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#193 9 years ago

WiseBobo;5327127Your arguments suck, have no basis in fat, and here you go retreating from the playground to take your ball home.

Thanks for your contribution to the Pub. :mihailhatesu:

Is this really the best you can do Mr. Internet Tough guy? To respond on your level, let me state that your arguments suck and so does your mom. You evidently think you are "victorious" because I am not enjoying talking to you drones, but it would be cruel if me to deny whatever helps you sleep at night. Shall I PM your official "winner of the internet" certificate?




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#194 9 years ago

Ugh, I'm sorry, but you really have a lot to learn.


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#195 9 years ago
Stryker500;5327133Is this really the best you can do Mr. Internet Tough guy? To respond on your level, let me state that your arguments suck and so does your mom. You evidently think you are "victorious" because I am not enjoying talking to you drones, but it would be cruel if me to deny whatever helps you sleep at night. Shall I PM your official "winner of the internet" certificate?

Don't bring the ball if you can't bring the game. If you were really paying attention, you would have noticed that I didn't even respond to this thread, ergo you are not even aware of my position on the subject...but thanks for playing. You can go home now, away from the supposed liberal takeover of education in a thread discussing historical revisionism with a christian tinge to it.




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#196 9 years ago
Warforger;5327132But that doesn't mean that this nation is a Christian nation, and saying that liberals want a secular nation like the Soviet Union implies you don't like the idea.

In my mind both this nation's history and the fact that this is a nation of the "people" make us a Christian nation, which does not equate to a theocracy.

Uhhhh what else would "do not go to public go to thy closet to pray" mean? We might as well say the ten commandments were all just made on opposite day.

And what is the context of that passage, who was being spoken to? Don't quote the Bible here to prove a point that I am not even looking to argue.

Yes, if you were tuned in for the original bump of the thread.

The only serious flaw I see there is the failure to mention the non-crazy sort of eugenics. Yet who is to say what the exact wording in the text-book will state?

The thing is, is that he was insane, he kept trying his McCarthyism even after he became unpopular in Congress and in America, when any reasonable person can tell he's a politician feeding on paranoia, the guy had a laundry receipt and said that it was a list of the US Communist party members.

I wouldn't go so far as to say he was clinically insane. It also seems like standards for insanity have gone up since his time. Again, point out how he took things too far, but don't portray the man as comparable to Stalin or Hitler.




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#197 9 years ago

computernerd;5327139Ugh, I'm sorry, but you really have a lot to learn.[/QUOTE]

Really sorry if I don't fit into your cool forum goer club, but I'm not looking to.

[QUOTE=WiseBobo;5327140]Don't bring the ball if you can't bring the game. If you were really paying attention, you would have noticed that I didn't even respond to this thread, ergo you are not even aware of my position on the subject...but thanks for playing. You can go home now away from the supposed liberal takeover of education in a thread discussing historical revisionism with a christian tinge to it.

So this is a game now? Listen up, if your going to resort to baseless "you suck" arguments I will respond in kind regardless of your activity here. So I sincerely apologize for interrupting your liberal circle jerk regarding a right-wing conspiracy based around historical revisionism that is not occurring, but I like to state my opinion. Since you have "won at internet" perhaps you should go to bed now.




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#198 9 years ago
Stryker500So this is a game now? Listen up, if your going to resort to baseless "you suck" arguments I will respond in kind regardless of your activity here. So I sincerely apologize for interrupting your liberal circle jerk regarding a right-wing conspiracy based around historical revisionism that is not occurring, but I like to state my opinion. Since you have "won at internet" perhaps you should go to bed now.

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You're such an hero for conservatives like myself.




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#199 9 years ago

cool-story-bro.jpg It's always nice knowing when you are driving some self-declared "internet badass" crazy.




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#200 9 years ago

Stryker500;5327123For all intents and purposes that is what really defines a secular government, not "political correctness" to the point where national motto can't mention God and a government official can't say a prayer![/QUOTE] A motto like that certainly doesn't go with a secular nation, but why is the surveillance on your government officials so tight that they can't take a moment off to quietly pray in seclusion like everyone else when they are not attending church?

Hell, we even have two state churches, but government officials still respect the Bible enough not to pray out loud.

Stryker500;5327123I'm clearly not going to change your opinion, and you certainly aren't going to change mind. So I might as well let you boys get back to this circle jerk about how such intelligent liberals you are and how Texas should be given to Mexico.[/QUOTE] You are ignorant, I'll have to admit that I agree with you about that, but that doesn't mean you couldn't change. It won't be easy, but it isn't impossible.

[QUOTE=Stryker500;5327141]In my mind both this nation's history and the fact that this is a nation of the "people" make us a Christian nation, which does not equate to a theocracy.

So atheists and people of other religions are not part of "the people"?

Anyway, if your nation really is so Christian, why not add a state church? There is nothing wrong with a state church, but pretending to have separation between state and church when there really isn't much seems rather dumb.

[QUOTE=Stryker500;5327141]And what is the context of that passage, who was being spoken to? Don't quote the Bible here to prove a point that I am not even looking to argue.

That is from the Sermon on the Mount, have you actually even read the Bible? :Puzzled:

If you really want to be as much of a devoted Christian as you want people to think, I have some advice for you: Buy a Bible and read it. Think for yourself, rather than asking your cult leader to interpret it for you.