The Death Penalty and other matters of Justice 251 replies

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GreatGrizzly

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#11 15 years ago

I believe in the death penalty, however, the ones sent to death row must have another trial, and if the jury still deems it necassary with any new evidence, then they can kill the inmate. They should also be able to overturn the punishment and send the inmates to correctional facilities. Some people wait to go to death row for years...and new technology could have proven them innocent or further incriminate them.... However, overall death row 1) Saves everyone money 2)saves space 3)is merciful




Komrad_B

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#12 15 years ago
Hey Joe Bobstien did not treat that 12 year old girl like a human when he raped her, why should we?

Because Joe Bobstien was wrong, she was a human. Not considering Joe Bobstien a human is also wrong (he IS human, nobody can decide otherwise), and would be repeating his same errors.




Cap'n Rommel

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#13 15 years ago

I dont even think that the nazi-warcriminals should have had the death-penalty




Admiral Donutz Advanced Member

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#14 15 years ago
PethegreatYet you are pro choice. Deciding wheter and innocent life should be ended for "convience". Ironic.

And yet you are not for pro choice because a human life is lost. Nu human has the right to end the life of an other. However an embryo in it's early stages isn't a fully grown human yet.

Anyway let's not turn this into an abortion thread.




Emperor Benedictine

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#15 15 years ago

The death penalty is simply government-funded revenge killing. There is no good reason for it to exist, other than that prison systems are too crowded and certain countries can't do without it anymore. Human rights are not there to be removed on demand, that contradicts any value they may have held to begin with.




GOD111

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#16 15 years ago

I also asking who gives the state the right to take someones life. The state is doing excacly the same thing as the perp... The whole death penalty system is build on revenge. People want to see criminals getting executed beacuse it is a sort of revenge for what he has done towards the society or a human being. So by the rationale, since we want to kill someone who have killed, that means that we have to go the whole way....We must rape the rapist, we must burn down the arcenists house, we must steal something from the thief, etc etc...I mean why not? It's all about the revenge, isn't?




Psychokenesis

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#17 15 years ago
The death penalty is simply government-funded revenge killing. There is no good reason for it to exist, other than that prison systems are too crowded and certain countries can't do without it anymore. By DarkInvader
I also asking who gives the state the right to take someones life. The state is doing excacly the same thing as the perp... The whole death penalty system is build on revenge.by SW3D3

We exist in a Republic. A Government Representative of the Public or People. You and people like you consented to the Death Penalty over people like your self who are minority.

It exist for the purpose of control. To excercise Authorative or dominating influence, not revenge. That is the inherint right of any social society. Individuals displaying aberrant behavior that results in the death or bodily harm to the society are subject to the ramifications of that action.

Choosing to live or interact with any society is invariably choosing to be judged by the rules of that society.

Therefore a killer, rapist and thieves are willingly subjecting themselves to the Dealth Penalty (counter to self preservation) by interacting or living in these places. Hence: A willful acceptances of the consequences.

The dealing of the ultimate consequences is another story entirely. In all respects the only way to make for certain that an indivdual executed for murder and heinous acts actually commited the crime is to have a predetermined amount of unbiassed witnesses and video evidence. This however is rare.




LIGHTNING [NL]

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#18 15 years ago
PethegreatHey Joe Bobstien did not treat that 12 year old girl like a human when he raped her, why should we?

Because we are the 'good guys'.




Emperor Benedictine

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#19 15 years ago
SaquistWe exist in a Republic. A Government Representative of the Public or People. You and people like you consented to the Death Penalty over people like your self who are minority.

My country does not have the death penalty, so that point is moot. Besides, people do not generally get to vote on individual issues like this, and even if they did, simply because the majority wants something, does not mean I have to.

It exist for the purpose of control. To excercise Authorative or dominating influence, not revenge. That is the inherint right of any social society. Individuals displaying aberrant behavior that results in the death or bodily harm to the society are subject to the ramifications of that action.

It exists because people are not satisfied with anything short of condemning wrongdoers to hell. As the great number of non-death-penalty contries prove, it is not necessary at all.

a killer, rapist and thieves are willingly subjecting themselves to the Dealth Penalty (counter to self preservation) by interacting or living in these places. Hence: A willful acceptances of the consequences.

None of this flawed logic makes use of the death penalty right.




Dæmon

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#20 15 years ago

I really think it depends. For people that repeated their crime, Rapists, murderers etc, yes. They should be executed.

However, a few months ago I saw a Dutch documentary on the death penalty. There was this guy, when he was 17/18 he and a few others killed someone. After being in prison for about 15 years, he had totally changed. In the end, I felt sorry for him. He just changed and (Argh can't think of the word right now) would never ever do something like it again. His life was totally ruined. In the end he did get executed 2 years later. He was changed, and was a very nice person.

I think some people's execution, like the person above's case, should be reconsidered. There are people that change, even though there are also a lot of psychopaths that just won't. They should be put to death.