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WarHawk109

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#11 12 years ago

as i said, differences in pay have more to do with sociological reasons rather than actual discrimination, we don't need more legislation.




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#12 12 years ago

No, those numbers re not the averages of all jobs, IIRC, they are of the same job.

Example: a female clerk who has worked for 15 years might make $50,000. A male clerk who has worked for 15 years might make $55,000.

For the same work, get the same pay. It's only fair.




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#13 12 years ago

Another argument against it is that most people who already ignore sex bias discrimination laws are probably going to ignore this amendment as well.




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#14 12 years ago

Crazy Wolf;3253230No, those numbers re not the averages of all jobs, IIRC, they are of the same job.

Example: a female clerk who has worked for 15 years might make $50,000. A male clerk who has worked for 15 years might make $55,000.

For the same work, get the same pay. It's only fair.

and what if the female clerk has not worked as much? like taken off time for bringing up baby for instance?

should we regulate tipping as well just because waitresses get more tips than waitors?




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#15 12 years ago

In my example, assume the female had not taken maternity leave. Not all women get pregnant, and even if she did, doing the same amount of work should result in equal pay.

You knew what I was getting at WarHawk, don't act dumb.

Tipping is optional, so I see no need to regulate it.




WarHawk109

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#16 12 years ago

Crazy Wolf;3253338In my example, assume the female had not taken maternity leave. Not all women get pregnant, and even if she did, doing the same amount of work should result in equal pay.

You knew what I was getting at WarHawk, don't act dumb.

I wonder how often this actually happens? Is legislation truely neccessary?

Tipping is optional, so I see no need to regulate it.

Omg! That's discrimination!




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#17 12 years ago

Tipping may be discrimination, but it is a hard thing to regulate.

It is not given by the employer, who is required to pay the worker. It is given by a satisfied customer who wants to reward good service.




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#18 12 years ago

What about paterninty leave for new fathers? The ERA amendment would create the curcumstances to force employers to give fathers time off for new children as well.




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#19 12 years ago

wouldn't that be unconstitutional though? violating property rights and all...though not like that's stopped them before.




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#20 12 years ago
WarHawk109;3253431wouldn't that be unconstitutional though? violating property rights and all...though not like that's stopped them before.

What/who's point are you adressing?

And how is either a)not tipping, or b)paternity leave a violation of property rights?