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Serio VIP Member

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#1 2 months ago

I was going to make a thread on the fires in Sweden at first, but then I heard of the tragedy in Greece. So instead, I'm going to make a thread for both.


Now, starting off, Greece has been badly hit. In the past 48 hours, a horrifying wildfire picked up speed in the Attica region of Greece, where Athens is located. Aided by strong winds, the fire engulfed the seaside village of Mati, forcing both tourists and inhabitants to flee towards the sea to get away from the fires. In total, it's estimated so far that 74 people have died, either to the fire itself or to drowning in the sea as a result of fleeing from it. The mayor of the region said the entire village was essentially gone - over a thousand buildings burnt up and destroyed in a matter of hours.


Less dramatic - but no less destructive - wildfires have raged through Scandinavia as well. In Sweden, dozens of wildfires have driven the Swedish government to send out a plea for international assistance. Indeed, even with professional assistance from around Europe, some of the wildfires have reached such a critical point that they literally cannot be put out by humanity now. The only chance of those fires stopping is downpour or they burn themselves out. If there is a bright side to it, it's that none of the wildfires in Scandinavia have cost lives, though a firefighter in Denmark was killed when a firetruck reversed over him.


In Latvia, too, fires have raged. And in Finland, and Norway, and Denmark, too. Across Europe, fires are breaking out from the smallest ignition source. The utter lack of rain is evaporating streams entirely, leaving fish dead in its wake. Europe is - essentially - burning up right now. And who knows when the weather will turn and what will happen then? Floods?




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#2 2 months ago

I do have a few questions every time I see a wildfire. How many were started by weather? How many were started by campers? How many were started by idiots with fireworks?


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#3 2 months ago

I don't have numbers, but I'd assume very few by idiots with fireworks. In Denmark and (I think) the rest of Scandinavia, it's illegal to set off fireworks without a permit outside of New Years Eve. And they're not gonna give out a permit during a drought. Aside from that, you can't even buy it right now.


I imagine a few might have been set off by tourists that aren't aware of the fire ban. No idea elsewhere in Europe. I know a few in Sweden were set off by thunderstorms, though.


One problem in this drought is that something as minute as a combine harvester striking a rock is enough to set a field ablaze. And before firefighters can arrive - even if it's only five minutes drive away - the field can be entirely engulfed in flames.




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#4 2 months ago

This summer seems to be the driest in at least 50 years in Germany. Starts to mess with food production. No wild fires yet, but that could happen.


Fires are a typical issue in mediterranean countries like Spain, but haven't heard about that being a problem in Scandinavia yet. Almost makes you think there might be something wrong with the climate.




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#5 2 months ago
Posted by SerioOne problem in this drought is that something as minute as a combine harvester striking a rock is enough to set a field ablaze. And before firefighters can arrive - even if it's only five minutes drive away - the field can be entirely engulfed in flames.

I have also heard of trains starting wildfires, for a very similar reason. Seeing as how train wheels and the rails are metal, the normal everyday physics of metal against metal has been known to cause sparks, which then causes wildfires.


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#6 2 months ago
Posted by Lindale
Posted by SerioOne problem in this drought is that something as minute as a combine harvester striking a rock is enough to set a field ablaze. And before firefighters can arrive - even if it's only five minutes drive away - the field can be entirely engulfed in flames.

I have also heard of trains starting wildfires, for a very similar reason. Seeing as how train wheels and the rails are metal, the normal everyday physics of metal against metal has been known to cause sparks, which then causes wildfires.

Precisely. Usually it isn't an issue. Fires aren't usually started by one spark. It's fairly difficult to actually set fire to a leaf that isn't dry. But once it is dry, it just takes a single spark to set it alight. Hell, I could imagine a bird dropping a stone on another stone could start a wildfire right now.




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#7 2 months ago

So I read about this method of putting out fires...


It's a bit of a bang.


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#8 2 months ago

Interestingly enough, some birds of prey will actually start wildfires.


https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/01/wildfires-birds-animals-australia/


That's Australia and I don't know what the majority of raptors are in Europe, but I've heard reports that some will actually carry burning twigs and drop them in certain areas as a means of getting rid of competitors.  Of course, it could just be an accident but nevertheless a possibility.


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#9 2 months ago

There's always pyromaniacs.


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#10 2 months ago

crazy insane and huge fires happening in California right now also...




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