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Embee

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#31 8 years ago
Crusader;5426491So that means Muslims in the west who are born here dont have a right to get angry then over percieved Percecution, as they live in the same so called "civilised countries"?

... When did I say that ? Don't twist my words. I never said that Western people don't have the right to protest and such. I just said there aren't that many things to protest against.

What about the Chrisitans murderered and attacked all over the muslim world, what about nations like Iran and Saudi Arabia?

Can I have your sources ? And I don't give a fuck about Saudi Arabia, the sheikhs there are spending billions while their people die.

Once again you've just changed the rules,

Can you make clear what "your rules" are ? So I can follow them, just to show you.

regardless of what you say, Muslims around the world can get angry over what happens, even if their students, from a rich family and live in a peaceful area (also like the background of alot of extremists actually), but then Chrisitans cant get angry, suddenly it becomes a concept of nations and we cant get angry because we dont live there, you're full of cr*p, you're not defending your Religion, your simply once again making out its understandable for Muslims to get angry and for people to not judge them all the same, while again you never usually openly challlange Muslims who tar Christians with the same brush, you'd prahaps disagree, but you wouldnt make a huge stand against it (unlike our lilly livered left wingers who root for Muslims all the time) Basically it comes back to the same old thing.

Again, I never said you can't become angry. I just said that your attitude ("By the Lord almighty, I shall fear no Crucifiction denyers, and I shall strike my heavenly sword upon them, for God is on my side, and they aren't" --- That kind of attitude) feeds the extremist muslims. You're the image they show to the people over there, just as their images are shown here to people like you by Fox News.

Muslims get angry at people the feel percecute Muslims around the world is because of American, UK, Israel and the "rising trend of Islamophobia" (even though the mindset outdates US, Israel and the "Rise of Islamophobia")

Muslims get angry over the Iraqi war, the participation of UK and the Israeli treatment of Palestina, not about Americans, not about the UK, not about Israel (well, I don't). There's a nuance.

a Christian gets angry hes just a "bigot, racist (even though religion is not a race), xenophobic, Islamophobic", etc

You can get angry. You can curse, spit on the extremists. All I'm saying is don't spit on me or my religion.

You do change the rules, as Islamic terrorists always have some backseat problem that "caused the extremism", why arent they just labelled as bigots to, no because people say "i dont agree with terrorism but.......America, Israel, rise of extremism because of Islamophobia...................blah blah blah"

What ? THEY ARE LABELLED AS BIGOTS peanutbrain. And yes, the extremism rises because of, for the tenth time, the actions of America in Iraq and Israel in Palestina. God, you're slow...

So dont bother saying that because I live in the west i cant be angry, because Muslims in the "Free" west shouldnt get angry then, nor should their little anti-Israel/USA Left winger crowd neither.

BE ANGRY, go ahead, you're going to achieve greatness.

But first, please, for the love of God, for the love of "YOUR" God, form decent sentences and use grammar control. I seriously don't understand what you're saying most of the time !!




Crusader

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#32 8 years ago

All I am guilty of is prehaps wrong terminology and definition of diffrent Muslims. But I stand by what I say, I cant stand the diffrence in rules for people, its like its black and white for one side, always a gray area for the other. The attitude seems to be Its understandable for one side to get upset over something, but its not understandable if another side gets upset over the equivilent or similier action/event. This attitude is bolstered by the Left Ideology thats became mainstream, you're one of their "pet groups", your always right and theres always gray areas. As for the Sword of God, it will come crashing down upon everybody, all will taste its true justice, but thats regardless of anything we've talked about!




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#33 8 years ago

I take it that your from America crusader?

Is not one of the founding principles of your nation freedom of religion? Also, doesn't the law apply to everybody in America? If that's not what you meant, please could you state what you mean clearly so we can understand what your trying to communicate.




Embee

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#34 8 years ago

@Crusader, do you mean then that you don't offend muslims ?

Crusader;5426509 This attitude is bolstered by the Left Ideology thats became mainstream, you're one of their "pet groups", your always right and theres always gray areas.

You obviously don't know me. I'm independent, I'm not following any ideology, especially not one from America called "the Left ideology".




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#35 8 years ago

Embee;5426580@Crusader, do you mean then that you don't offend muslims ?

You obviously don't know me. I'm independent, I'm not following any ideology, especially not one from America called "the Left ideology".

which is, by most nation's standards, moderate left-centre right, to be honest...




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#36 8 years ago
Freyr;5426560I take it that your from America crusader? Is not one of the founding principles of your nation freedom of religion? Also, doesn't the law apply to everybody in America? If that's not what you meant, please could you state what you mean clearly so we can understand what your trying to communicate.

Wrong!!!!! Rule Britannia!




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#37 8 years ago

I'm British. I'm profoundly disappointed to discover we have intolerant and ignorant christians preaching hate about other religions though, I thought we'd progressed beyond that point.




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#38 8 years ago
Freyr;5426849I'm British. I'm profoundly disappointed to discover we have intolerant and ignorant christians preaching hate about other religions though, I thought we'd progressed beyond that point.

Oh yeah, look what its "progressed" into, a society fragmented, self hating and rotten to the core. The points are simple. Is it understandble for a Muslim to become a terrorist because of wars in Iraq or over Palestine, No, they're just the worst of sinners!. Is it understandable for a US/UK soldier whos had enough of extremism and fighting in a war he feels the people there dont want him there, so starts gunning down civilians, no that wouldnt be understandable. No it was the worst of sinners. Was it understandable when the Serbs started killing the Bosniaks due to the fact they were prividged during the Ottoman days?, No, it was the worst of sinners. I could go on with examples. But it makes me cringe that when it comes to Muslim Extremism that people then pipe up its a backlash against Islamophobia, US-led wars and Israel and Muslim Percecution, the extremists are just easily led idiots, sinners to the core, preperred to kill, when you can bring up excuses anmd reasons for any other group of people who do wrong, but people have no hesitation in just labelling them scum. Right, lets say some Extreme nationalist gunned down aload of Muslims, people would simply say he was just "evil, murderous hateful scum", which he would be, nobody would start softening the blow against such people and say something like "Well hes only did it because of the failings of Multiculturalism, the disillutionment of the working classes and the rise of extremist Muslim protesters etc" Its like people constanly shift the blame from the people who are to blame.




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#39 8 years ago

I think we can agree that the problem is "easily led idiots".

What I don't get is why your kicking off against Islam in general, apart from it being a competing religious sect.




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#40 8 years ago
Freyr;5426857I think we can agree that the problem is "easily led idiots". What I don't get is why your kicking off against Islam in general, apart from it being a competing religious sect.

Like I said, I prehaps use wrong terminology (though one of the terms, Islamism, thats always used to describe extremism) and get angry at the double standard. As for the Religeous angle, its obvious that I'll disagree with what their religion says, I think its a false crucifiction denying religion and so what, Islam accuses Christianity of being twisted and wrong on things. But really, I should stay on the political/perceptions debate as this isnt really about the religeous debate, even though I am guilty of emotions being counjured up and my opinions on my faith being roused up with it!