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GOD111

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#1 11 years ago

Yeah well as the topic states; the Dutch government has decided to grant some 25 000 asylum seekers amnesty.

Dutch government approves amnesty for 25,000 rejected asylum-seekers

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands: Twenty-five thousand asylum-seekers whose application for refuge in the Netherlands was initially rejected will be allowed to stay after all, the newly installed Dutch government said Saturday, reversing the previous administration's hardline immigration policy.

The Cabinet approved the plan crafted by Deputy Justice Minister Nebahat Albayrak, the country's top immigration official, in the early hours of the morning after a marathon session Friday.

"The foreigners who will be granted a permit on the basis of this ruling must find a place in Dutch society," the Cabinet said in a statement. "That means not only education and work, but also integration and housing."

The amnesty will apply to asylum-seekers who arrived before April 1, 2001 and were found not to qualify, but who remained in the country anyway.

"This is the end of a hopeless situation for many people," said Edwin Huizing, director of the country's main immigrant aid organization Vluchtelingenwerk, praising the decision. "They finally have a future to look forward to."

Under Albayrak's predecessor Rita Verdonk, 11,000 such people left or were deported, 4,200 forcibly. New arrivals are confined in "Departure Centers" while their applications are processed.

Human rights and Christian groups had criticized Verdonk's policies and the treatment of asylum seekers was a polarizing issue in November elections, in which Verdonk's conservative VVD Party lost ground.

Parliament called for a general amnesty and a halt to forced deportations in its first official acts after reconvening in December.

Verdonk, in a caretaker function, refused, and was removed from her immigration duties as a result.

Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende's Christian Democrat party was eventually able to reform a centrist government with Labor and a small Christian values party, the ChristenUnie.

It had been clear the amnesty would be granted since the new government took office in February, but Balkenende's government held off announcing any specific policy details in its first 100 days in office, which ended Monday.

At Friday's meeting, funding for numerous new policies was decided, but the government will not reveal most of them for several more weeks.

The Finance Ministry announced separately Saturday that the Netherlands expects a budget deficit of around 0.8 percent under EU rules this year, rather than a surplus of 0.2 percent as previously forecast, due to ballooning health care costs and worse than expected revenues from natural gas.

So basically, those who got rejected for asylum, and who refused to leave the country by going "under ground" will now get rewarded for not turning them selfs in to the authorities when the deportation were due?

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#2 11 years ago

If the laws that made those people stay illegaly in the country were wrong then I don't see a problem with granting them an amnesty now. It's better than sending them to their deaths at least.




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#3 11 years ago

I have to second Fancypants opinion. Those people were there allready. Without the amnesty, many would have to resort to crime, and living in the edge world. This way, they at least have a chance.




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#4 11 years ago

I'm not sure these people were actually hiding to keep from being deported, they could have been shacked up in some refugee camp somewhere. I'm not sure, but i believe it to be the case.




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#5 11 years ago

This decision further encourages illegal immigration though if it's certain that these people would be killed in their home countries, then it's somewhat harder question. Otherwise deportation must be an option. That is why the Netherlands needs, first & foremost, stricter customs & border control to prevent illegal immigrants from entering the country in the first place. Border & customs cooperation with EU border countries such as Greece & Italy is also important. However I have to say that I'm not surprised from this decision as the country in question is Netherlands, world's liberal heaven.




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#6 11 years ago

*SW3D3*;3700418So basically, those who got rejected for asylum, and who refused to leave the country by going "under ground" will now get rewarded for not turning them selfs in to the authorities when the deportation were due?

Thoughts?

I would gladly kick them all out, but we don't have the resources to do so.

Oh well, atleast now we can play the humane excuse card.

"Exactly what would you have my government do? Send them all back? Yes, most of these people could probably have gone back to their nations of origin, and most would have lived there happily ever after. What about the ones that wouldn't? Would their deaths be acceptable for the cleansing of our country? Just for the sake of keeping the impure non-germanic christian immigrants out?"

However I have to say that I'm not surprised from this decision as the country in question is Netherlands, world's liberal heaven.

Don't insult my motherland. Nothing amuses me more than to see foreigners describe my homecountry as some kind of liberal heaven. Holland is a xenophobic christian democratic state where it's legal to smoke pot. Nothing more, nothing less.




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#7 11 years ago

I'm glad this thing passed.

It grants all immigrants who have applied for Dutch citizenship before April 1st 2001 AND have no criminal record to be accepted. Most of these people have had there requests denied for questionble reason such as them giving up an invalid name on arrival (done in fear of people trying to t trace them), the country being relatively save in some parts (Iraq is save aparantly for example) etc.

More over the immigration system has been a mess for many years, leaving many people in doubt for years before they got an final answer on their citizenship application. By that time most have builded up familys with children that fully intergrated here etc.

so pretty much all of the people getting this amnesty are not going to do any harm and have earned there place here.

Luckly the new immigration laws are a lot more strict and people get there anwer a lot faster. I believe applications now would need to receive an final answer within 6 months with is reasonable. Any people who do not "deserve" to live here will be told about it quikly.

We basically started from scratched now, clean of any mistakes from the goverments side.

I thus must conclude that in my opinion this is justice being done and that we won't attract any more immigrants with it either. A win win situation.




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#8 11 years ago

Agree with Fancypants here. If the law was wrong, then of course amnesty is a good idea. __________________

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