The past is called me. 5 replies

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#1 13 years ago

'Light and Dark', 'Good and Bad' We place these words on our actions after we have done them in an attempt to justify those same actions, to make it easy for our hypocritical morality. There is no such thing as good and bad beyond a simple word, when people act they don’t consider good and evil. Do the cells of the arm stop to ask if it is right as they plunge the killing blow into the back of a person’s body? No it is just another action to them. All actions are of themselves morally neutral, for the universe knows nothing of right and wrong.

“My life is full of the wrong choices.

Too little time, not enough encouragement. All the words I used to try and take away the responsibility. But they are just words and they cannot hide the truth. These are my wrong choices, I alone am responsible. These are my wrong choices being made.”

That's something I wrote a few weeks ago as part of an English paper; I edited it out of course, everyone knows good English isn’t about telling the truth, it's about telling the lies that people want to hear, but that’s another story, as they say. From one perspective it's still true. And yet. And yet, with a word I can unmake them; I call them good and they become good, I call them bad and they become bad. Why is this? Why this urge to justify ourselves? Ultimately we are the creatures of emotion; joy, depression, and everything in-between. Emotions are the things we are justifying ourselves for, so that we have the right to feel what we feel, no that's not it, we justify ourselves so we feel at all.

To go on at all everyday, so that we can still tell we're alive. Justification has become our lives; love and hatred are equally based off of justification. Yet we only ever justify in the past tense, I look back and say “That was very wrong” Yet all we know is the now, a moment of time so small it is beyond the most accurate of measurements and can exist only as a concept. Now who am I? Who are you? The only evidence of the past is memory, and what is memory really? Nothing more than our imagination and a coupling of our perceptions upon stored fantasy.

Now is the longest time anyone will ever feel, this moment is the longest we will ever live. The me of a moment ago no longer exists. Is he dead? Did he exist at all, or did I just imagine him?

We're left feeling the emotional turmoil of people who are dead for an instant and yet are so far away in time that they may as well have been dead for a million years, we are vampires sucking feelings from the past. Yet this is the only way to know we are alive at all.

I remember the past that is called me. I should have put him in his place a long while ago and he tells me so; but to do so is the terrible two edged sword: Because then how could I tell the difference between life and death? And. What is death but the end of remembering?




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#2 13 years ago

Point taken.....

What happens in life has a reaction to every action, the choices of "good" and "bad" are dependent on what is society's opinion. Howevery, a society without a standard to decisions, choices, habits, etc. is no society at all. These rules are not written but rather are learnt.




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#3 13 years ago

:nodding:

Good. Bad. Light. Dark.

We exist in a world that those concepts have been stereo typed since we were children and watched superhero shows, always perciving the Hero as the good and the villian as the bad. Until I was eight years old I never knew if it was alright to like the villian.

Love. Hate. Friendship. Loner. Humans are complexly simple (forgive the oxymoron) protien based organic organisms that up from birth to death are rulled by emotions. What ever is given on your perspective of good and bad that the media or examples have shown you. Because you feel something you act on it purely decribed on a impulse from within. Only because you either have no control or it feels right.




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#4 13 years ago

wow a very interesting point of view really gets you thinking

We're left feeling the emotional turmoil of people who are dead for an instant and yet are so far away in time that they may as well have been dead for a million years, we are vampires sucking feelings from the past. Yet this is the only way to know we are alive at all.

living only for an instant and then dying and becomming new each life only a single thought and then gone storing information for future thoughts the actions of our past make who we are today




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#5 13 years ago

I got into a fight with a girl from my dorm about whether I should have apologized when this other kid complained to me about something I had written on his white board. I wrote this: Should I have said “I’m sorry?

Pros

  • It shows to him that I am sensitive to his feelings.
  • It shows to him that I wouldn’t do it again.
  • It would settle the issue quickly and painlessly.

Cons

  • It seems to admit that what I did was wrong, even when I don’t think it was. It seems to me that I should apologize only when I think what I did was wrong.
  • Any future complaints will go unchallenged. I will be required to apologize for everything even when I have good reason not to.
  • It keeps him from understanding that I thought this it was just a joke. He continues to believe that it was a malicious act.
  • I could show to him that I am sensitive to his feelings and that I won’t do it again even without apologizing.

Should I be sorry about what I did? No. I don’t think it was wrong. If I say “I’m sorry” then I’m admitting that what I did was wrong. Should I be sorry that I didn’t know it would offend him? No. How would I know whether it would offend him? I didn’t think it would offend him. If I’m wrong, it’s not my fault. I just didn’t know.




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#6 13 years ago

Ok, I figured it out: I said, "I was just kidding": To her, it was as if I were trying to defend my actions and not apologizing for offending him. To me, it was as if I were merely apologizing for offending him. To me, when people say "Im sorry" it is more of a formality and there is no sincerity behind it, so this is why I would not say "I'm sorry" in such a situation. So, in the end, the argument was about a difference in the meaning of "I was just kidding" between her and I. roll%20eyes%20%28sarcastic%29.gif I can't believe how out of proportion this whole thing got..argh!