The Real ID act. 27 replies

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CopperHead

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#11 14 years ago

The govenment is not your friend. Getting this databank up and running in it's fullest is not only bad for the reason of an easy target for all criminals and terrorists but also what about the day the govenment decides to go after a perticular kind of group of people? What did the U.S. govenment say when the towers fell, "Do not judge all muslim people in one lump". How long did it take before the government themselfs started to treat these people as a lump attacking entire countries? All i'm saying is that the line is thin.. oh so paperthin it is.




FactionRecon

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#12 14 years ago

I'm all for it if it's implemented correctly. We really need to step it up on all these immigrants, illegal or otherwise.




GreatGrizzly

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#13 14 years ago

this is just giving the government more power, something we DONT want to do They have access to EVERYTHING. Can anyone say "blackmail"? :rolleyes:




Tas

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#14 14 years ago
The system would include your full name, address, driving history, social security number and even your birth certificate. It would also include biometric information, which could include your DNA, retinal scans or fingerprints.

Oh god no! They will know my full name, they will know where i live! when i was born!!!1 So ****ing what? What do i care if they know these things? As far as i know they already have acces to most of this information. What are they going to do with it? make my name public to the people!?! :uhoh: Besides.. we dutchies already have to carry ID, big deal..




D.Sporky!

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#15 14 years ago

I don't like the sounds of that at all. What does the government need all that info for?




Big {Daddy}

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#16 14 years ago

What's the big deal? With the exception of the biometrics stuff, the government has all this info already. They just want to rationalise the many databases scattered all round government departments and lump it into one big database. My only concern would be network and user access security.




FactionRecon

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#17 14 years ago
The 13th RaptorOh god no! They will know my full name, they will know where i live! when i was born!!!1 So ****ing what? What do i care if they know these things? As far as i know they already have acces to most of this information. What are they going to do with it? make my name public to the people!?! :uhoh: Besides.. we dutchies already have to carry ID, big deal.. [/color]

Precisely. People forget that the government already has almost all of that information. All they're trying to do is get a standard of citizenship going so that illegals can't come in here, pass a driver's test and be free to go.

^^and Daddy's post too.




!moof

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#18 14 years ago

1. Problem is security.

2. Problem is this is America. No offense, Europeans, but you guys have always been more closely watched then we have. America is the home of the West, of riding into the sunset. I don't advocate full anonymity, but I'd like to be able to disappear if I felt like it.

Faction, read my post on "question without a poll". It's not right to track citizens who have not committed crimes. This wouldn't even work on illegals, because they're undocumented! How do you find a birth certificate, or personal information on a person with neither on record? This program is absolutely useless for combating foreign terrorism or illegal immigration. So what is the point? The point is to bring government prying into our lives that much more often, and it's wrong.




GreatGrizzly

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#19 14 years ago

it also brings all the info into one place so when someone hacks it (which they will) they will have EVERYTHING in one grab dont put all your eggs in one basket




Big {Daddy}

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#20 14 years ago
!mʊʊf1. Problem is security.

Agreed

2. Problem is this is America. No offense, Europeans, but you guys have always been more closely watched then we have. America is the home of the West, of riding into the sunset. I don't advocate full anonymity, but I'd like to be able to disappear if I felt like it.

Here in the UK, the income tax department already has all sorts of information, including your name, address, spouse, kids, bank accounts, employment, etc. Social Security authorities have most of the this information and they tend to keep medical records in relation to sickness benefit. The motor tax/registration department has records of vehicle ownership, licences, bans, penalties, etc. Police departments obviously keep criminal records. In summary, if you lead a normal lifestyle, you can't live in anonymity. Is the US really that different?

It's not right to track citizens who have not committed crimes.

They don't want to, nor can they "track" you any more than normal with this database.