The universe, Life and the unknown 71 replies

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obliviousnation

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#1 12 years ago

How did the Universe begin???

I mean I've been thinking about this for a while now and can't possibly comprehend the chain of events which lead to the creation of the universe.

Now I've read many theories including the Cyclic Universe theory

But none of them give a real solution as to how the Universe started for the first time, I mean how does nothing turn into something, just like that.

So heres my theory, it's crude I grant you that but I can't really think of anything else.

I believe that before the universe was created there was nothing but a supremely powerful being made up of vast amounts of energy. This being was intelligent as we know it, yet it still contained a consience. This being decided it would itself and hence it expanded into the universe through the means of a collosal explosion of some sort, spreading out the basic elements such as Hydrogen, Helium etc.

This explosion created balls of superheated energy, in the form of stars which contained these basic elements.

From this radioactive elements were formed and emitted into the space which began to form planets.

and so the rest is history...

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#2 12 years ago

My opinion? I think people should spend less time worrying about the meaning of life and more time living life. I think it'd be much more enjoyable that way. I dislike trying to find the meaning in something that's completely unprovable - not having a definitive answer is frustrating. So my motto: why worry? The more time you spend worrying about life, the more of it you waste.




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#3 12 years ago

Many people are quite clear about all of history except for the first quarter of a femtosecond of it. And quite simply, there is no way of knowing.




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#4 12 years ago

The answers of these question we will never know. How vast is the Universe? It's imcomprehensible. How did we start? I don't know. I do believe in the evolution theory though, so that's how we came to what we are now, but that's not the question.

I think people should spend less time worrying about the meaning of life and more time living life.

We had this class, at school, and it was about this boy who once had been going to my school, but was ill (not mentally). He wrote poems, and there was one which stuck to my mind.

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Wat is de zin van het bestaan? Is een nutteloze vraag Want hoe het antwoord ook luidt Je gaat verder met vandaag.

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What's the meaning of life (our existence)? Is an useless question because whatever the answer you will keep on living your life this day.

There is no meaning behind life. We are just stuck here, nothing you can do about it ;).




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#5 12 years ago

mm i some time wunder about this myself, i have never came to a conclusion but




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#6 12 years ago

If you mean the universe as in, EVERYTHING, then I subscribe to the 'it didn't begin' theory myself (I go with the pulsation theory personally). People just can't accept the possibility that not everything needs to be created just because we have finite lifespans. You can't get something from nothing, and energy cannot be created or destroyed, so there has always been something here even if it wasn't the universe as we recognise it today. Even if you believe in God, you have to accept that there has always been something -- God himself!




obliviousnation

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#7 12 years ago
Mr. MattIf you mean the universe as in, EVERYTHING, then I subscribe to the 'it didn't begin' theory myself (I go with the pulsation theory personally). People just can't accept the possibility that not everything needs to be created just because we have finite lifespans. You can't get something from nothing, and energy cannot be created or destroyed, so there has always been something here even if it wasn't the universe as we recognise it today. Even if you believe in God, you have to accept that there has always been something -- God himself!

You make a fair point but your wrong, energy can be created from next to nothing, hence the equation E=Mc^2. (If you don't know research it)

Anyway like the link I gave you explains there is a popular theory that a cyclic universe exists. Basically the universe expands to a point, undergoes a "crunch", implodes and then begins it's expansion again. This could have happened an infinite period of times in the past and will probably go on for ever in the future BUT my point is how did it all begin.

The comment made that some things don't have a beginning is just stupid, of course there has to be a beginning otherwise something can't exist in the first place, my question was what...

Anyway I was reading up on the subject a little more and have discovered some pretty alarming news.

basically the universe is undergoing a period of rapid growth which scientists don't fully understand. They believe a substance called "Dark Energy", (which is basically negative mass), is causing this expansion.

The worrying thing is we have no way of knowing if this happened in the previous cycle of the universe, hence If our current universe continues expanding at its current rate then in a trillion trillion years the universe will "rip" apart and we will all be converted to energy.

Who knows, maybe this very chain of events actually leads to the end of our known universe - creating another...

Oh and I can confirm that we, humans, on earth came into being because of the fission reactions in the sun. basically simple elements such as Hydrogen and Helium combine to form more complex ones such as Carbon and Oxygen - these are emitted into the solar system, creating life.

Where these simple elements came from is a mystery however, after all how can 2 elements combine to create an element with a single proton? :confused:




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#8 12 years ago
Inyri ForgeMy opinion? I think people should spend less time worrying about the meaning of life and more time living life. I think it'd be much more enjoyable that way. I dislike trying to find the meaning in something that's completely unprovable - not having a definitive answer is frustrating. So my motto: why worry? The more time you spend worrying about life, the more of it you waste.

If all humans took that attitude we would never discover or progress. And who says finding the beginning is unprovable? A lot of things have been thought unprovable but science and thinkers who did wonder about the universe and did want to discover figured them out.




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#9 12 years ago

the current best theory is very complicated, and unless you take a course in theoretical physics, calculus, astrophysics, abstract algebra, and read up on string theory, you most likely wont get it, so unless you are prepared to go to those lengths, go with the big bang.




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#10 12 years ago
Al CaponeYou make a fair point but your wrong, energy can be created from next to nothing, hence the equation E=Mc^2. (If you don't know research it)

Erm, what? E=MC2 has to do with how energy relates to mass and the speed of light. No part of that formula or the theory itself infers that energy can be created from nothing. Nowhere does it contradict the first law of thermodynamics, which Einstein himself was quite fond of as I recall. It's entirely based on the fact that energy cannot be created, only converted from one form to another.

Anyway like the link I gave you explains there is a popular theory that a cyclic universe exists. Basically the universe expands to a point, undergoes a "crunch", implodes and then begins it's expansion again. This could have happened an infinite period of times in the past and will probably go on for ever in the future BUT my point is how did it all begin.

You answered your own question with the use of the word 'infinite' ;).

All this theoretical physics stuff should be taken with a pinch of salt. Half the time astrophysicists come across something they don't understand so they just invent an explanation for it, such as dark matter, the 'missing mass'. It might well be very logical and mathematically verified, but it's still highly theoretical. Inyri said it best -- it is the great unanswerable question.