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Time2KILL

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#1 10 years ago

Obama Distances Himself From Ex-Pastor - AOL News

Although I do not believe most of the words of his pastor, I really believe that Obama is nothing more than a very skilled BS artist. I don't understand why a person (notice how Im not mentioning parties...) would vote for a man like this. He contradicts himself all the time and it appears he doesn't give a damn about what he says as long as he gets what he wants. Just a few weeks ago he refused to withdraw from the church claiming that the pastor was like a "family member". Apparently his isn't very close with his family if he is willing to just drop someone who is 'close' to make himself look good. Why cant Americans see through his charade!? It is obvious that he is a very good liar and he has no problem BSing to get what he wants. It actually scares me how many people think this guy is so great. So what he is charismatic, thats what draws people in, but isn't anyone looking at the big picture here? Sure 'drawing someone in' is a good thing but 'keeping them in' (by in I mean happy about the presidency and such) is more important than anything. I'm telling you if this man gets elected president I will be scared. I'll be scared because it shows how ignorant and foolish the majority is and how easily the masses can be manipulated. But what scares me most is how good of a liar he is and how easily he can get people to believe his lies.

I understand that all politicians at some point are dishonest and have committed dishonest or sneaky acts. But we can at least catch them or question them for the most part. This guy, Obama, can get away with that.In my opinion, someone who can lie, get away with it, and earn voters support effortlessly is a dangerous man. Barrak Obama is a dangerous vote. Discuss:




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#2 10 years ago
Time2KILL;4324875Obama Distances Himself From Ex-Pastor - AOL News Although I do not believe most of the words of his pastor, I really believe that Obama is nothing more than a very skilled BS artist.[/quote] I completely agree here. He has lied numerous times and people pay no attention to it.
Time2KILL;4324875 I don't understand why a person (notice how Im not mentioning parties...) would vote for a man like this. He contradicts himself all the time and it appears he doesn't give a damn about what he says as long as he gets what he wants. Just a few weeks ago he refused to withdraw from the church claiming that the pastor was like a "family member". Apparently his isn't very close with his family if he is willing to just drop someone who is 'close' to make himself look good.[/quote] I don't understand either. His "rejecting" of his pastor was basically a political move in an attempt to save himself from being ripped apart by the media and everyone else under the sun with half a brain stem. Still, it seems ludicrous to think anyone would "accept" this from him. It's obviously a big lie. One does not simply stay at a church for 20 years and, if the pastor is spouting disagreeable things, remain there as if it is simply nothing. If they were saying something blatantly false in a church service I was attending, I most certainly would not stay.
Time2KILL;4324875Why cant Americans see through his charade!? It is obvious that he is a very good liar and he has no problem BSing to get what he wants. It actually scares me how many people think this guy is so great. So what he is charismatic, thats what draws people in, but isn't anyone looking at the big picture here? Sure 'drawing someone in' is a good thing but 'keeping them in' (by in I mean happy about the presidency and such) is more important than anything.
Basically, a large portion of the American people wish to elect this guy simply because he made a few eloquent speeches and because they have "white guilt". What I worry about this is that he will further hurt the nation, and will ruin the chances of a decent black president ever being elected. People will think, "Hey, the other guy was awful, this one's probably gonna be the same!", and therefore will be repelled. [quote=Time2KILL;4324875]I'm telling you if this man gets elected president I will be scared. I'll be scared because it shows how ignorant and foolish the majority is and how easily the masses can be manipulated. But what scares me most is how good of a liar he is and how easily he can get people to believe his lies.
I have more reason to be scared then just that...I won't get into them right now. But you make a valid point here. [quote=Time2KILL;4324875]I understand that all politicians at some point are dishonest and have committed dishonest or sneaky acts. But we can at least catch them or question them for the most part. This guy, Obama, can get away with that.In my opinion, someone who can lie, get away with it, and earn voters support effortlessly is a dangerous man. Barrak Obama is a dangerous vote. Discuss:

I agree. This man is dangerous indeed...and again, as I mentioned above, for more than just that. If one man can manipulate the people enough, there's no telling what havoc he could wreak on us. I will now prepare for an imminent storm of facist neg-reppings.




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#3 10 years ago

If you choose not to vote for Obama over these things you are better off not voting at all, ever.




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#4 10 years ago

Not that Im voting for Obama but...

How could Obama assrape and fuck up this country any worse than Bush already has?




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#5 10 years ago

I'm happily planning on voting for Obama, and it isn't because of White Guilt, either, thank you very much. It is because I think he is the best man for the job. You've got to love how everyone except the Obama camp is thinking of race here.

If you want to talk manipulation, let's discuss how bush manipulated Christians to vote for him, when his faith is questionable at best.

The way I see it, considering the fact that I grew up in church until the age of thirteen, if you claim to have never disagreed with your pastor or religions leader, then you are either lying or truly brainwashed.

I certainly would have hated to have been in Obama's position, on one hand you have certain media outlets portraying Obama as an extremist Muslim, and on the other you have people fussing about how he must think exactly like his pastor. He was fucked in both cases, if he distanced himself from church then the reaction would have been, "OMG he faked Jebus!" and if he stayed close to the pastor, "WTF he wants to punish the white man and get white guilt votes!"

On top of that, I think that Obama figured that the stuff with his pastor would go away, and the American public would be intelligent enough to realsie, "Well, I've disagreed with my pastor a time or two, and gossiped about it with all the kind old ladies afterwards too..." I doubt he was expecting the guy to go insane and start attacking him so harshly. For a brief moment in time it did seem as if Wright was going to go away.

Now that he has returned, this time with some messed up agenda, Obama has realised that even if he did marry him and his wife, the man isn't as good of guy as he thought. I see nothing wrong with this.

He chose to stay with the Church when this stuff first reared it's head weeks ago, and people attacked him for staying behind a man that had some messed up ideas, completely ignoring that the Church, by definition, is a family that Obama had invested 20 years into. Now that he is distancing himself, because Wright is turning up the volume, everyone is attacking him for the one detail they ignored. I just don't get it.

I don't understand either. His "rejecting" of his pastor was basically a political move in an attempt to save himself from being ripped apart by the media and everyone else under the sun with half a brain stem. Still, it seems ludicrous to think anyone would "accept" this from him. It's obviously a big lie. One does not simply stay at a church for 20 years and, if the pastor is spouting disagreeable things, remain there as if it is simply nothing. If they were saying something blatantly false in a church service I was attending, I most certainly would not stay.

Did Obama not politely refuse to reject him about a month or two ago? If he regected him, the media would have jumped on the Islam accusations that were flying around like crazy at the time. Now that his former pastor is personally going after Obama, he is distancing himself, and people are accusing him of lying, when it is simply nothing more than having a relationship go sour.

So, if one man in your church said something you disagree with, you would get up and leave, never to return again? What about your friends and fellow members of the church? Isn't one of the main points of a church to form a family in Christ? If you ask me, that was why Obama chose to stay. He had been with that family for 20 years, and didn't want to turn his back on it all because of one misinformed man.

Basically, a large portion of the American people wish to elect this guy simply because he made a few eloquent speeches and because they have "white guilt". What I worry about this is that he will further hurt the nation, and will ruin the chances of a decent black president ever being elected. People will think, "Hey, the other guy was awful, this one's probably gonna be the same!", and therefore will be repelled.

Please, please do not pretend to know why people are voting for Obama if you are not one of those people. As a white person, race has nothing to do with why I want this man in office.




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#6 10 years ago

Who else is voting for Nobody '08? I think his virtues are sound and there is absolutely no room for corruption.

Nobody '08.




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#7 10 years ago

That is the amazing thing about democracy, you can do that if you like. I just can't stand it when people tell me what I should and should not do. However, their right, with free speech and all.

I must admit though, it is discouraging to see a fellow musician not voting. Being a musician has always had it's political aspects, for me at least. :p




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#8 10 years ago
(SeV);4325485 I must admit though, it is discouraging to see a fellow musician not voting. Being a musician has always had it's political aspects, for me at least. :p

Well, I determined that we aren't going to get any real freedom with either political party. What's the use.

I think I'll just sit back and watch things get considerably worse. And when the majority of this American population decides to get off their ass and be proactive in politics and REAL change, I will turn my apathy into protest.




Karst

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#9 10 years ago

A politician seemingly manipulating public opinion to gain votes? Unheard of! :eek:

Seriously though, it's a shame that such opinions as are voiced by his ex-pastor cannot exist in someone trying to get mainstream appeal. He seems to have the right ideas about a lot of things.




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#10 10 years ago

I really hate the voting demographic in my country. Economy is near ruins Foreign policy is a joke Infrastructure failing Military is being run by incompetent toadies but oh lordie dont vote for that guy, his love in Jebus MIGHT be fake!!