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#21 13 years ago

Roaming East;3935113A well working democracy though will create a high standard of living for its citizens and in order to better secure that lifestyle greater government control. This will lead to an eventual population full of people enamored with the nanny state and too soft to remember having had to work hard for what they want, instead demanding the government protect their 'rights' of priviledge.

Eventually the populace becomes soft and government takes complete control because the citizenry will be to afraid of the loss of property and comfort to do anything about it and by that point the governments military and police forces will be neigh unstoppable anyway. history repeats.

That's a paranoid assumption. Take a look at the Netherlands for example...

They are a complete nanny state, yet I don't see the government succumbing to tyranny any time soon. I could spout off lots of American rules and regulations that happen to be less free than the majority of Europe (namely censorship of the human body and cursing)...

Big corporations running the country isn't any better (and is sometimes worse) than having a huge nanny government...




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#22 13 years ago

well, thats because my idea of tyranny IS the nanny state. Different strokes for different folks i suppose but id much rather have the freedom to smoke wherever the hell i want and get cancer than to have my government arbitrarily decided where i can and cant do things that i may or may not even be allowed to do for example. I dont want to be 'looked after by my government, im of the opinion that the governments sole job is to keep foreign armies out and to pave my roads. anything else eing gross excess




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#23 13 years ago
Roaming East;3942305well, thats because my idea of tyranny IS the nanny state. Different strokes for different folks i suppose but id much rather have the freedom to smoke wherever the hell i want and get cancer than to have my government arbitrarily decided where i can and cant do things that i may or may not even be allowed to do for example.

I would much rather have citizens the ability to buy alcohol at the age of 18 (or less) than to have my government arbitrarily decide when I can and can't drink...

I would much rather be allowed to post tastefully nude art in public than have my government say "It's not morally decent".

I would much rather have the freedom to say "fuck" or "shit" on the airwaves without the government tacking on a hefty fine for doing so.

Catch my drift? America isn't a nanny state, yet in some cases they have even more restrictions.

I dont want to be 'looked after by my government, im of the opinion that the governments sole job is to keep foreign armies out and to pave my roads. anything else eing gross excess

I imagine you are immensely dissatisfied with the United States currently considering we have a lot of arbitrary laws/regulations that even nanny states allow. Maybe I'm just on a different page here...




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#24 13 years ago
Jeffro;3942992 I imagine you are immensely dissatisfied with the United States currently considering we have a lot of arbitrary laws/regulations that even nanny states allow. Maybe I'm just on a different page here...

Like you wouldnt believe, unfortunately, theres not any place on the planet i could really emigrate to so i guess i'll have to resettle in Texas and ride out the rest of my countrys slow descent in self induced destruction.




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#25 13 years ago

Heh, I'm looking at a college in North Carolina, Warren Wilson College, and it seems like a good combination for me, judging by what I've heard/seen of North Carolina.

RE, how much time have you spent in that part of the South, and do you know how restrictive their laws are? Keep in mind you're talking to a Californio.




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#26 13 years ago

Crazy Wolf;3944291Heh, I'm looking at a college in North Carolina, Warren Wilson College, and it seems like a good combination for me, judging by what I've heard/seen of North Carolina.

RE, how much time have you spent in that part of the South, and do you know how restrictive their laws are? Keep in mind you're talking to a Californio.

was stationed at Seymour Johnson AFB (yes thats really the name...) in Goldsboro NC for some time. Gun ownership is widespread and proliferate. Just about anything legal federally is legal in NC. Conceal handgun licenses are availabe though take 60-90 to actually get as NC is kinda uptight about issueing them. They werent a shall issue state when i lived there though i believe they are now. Ammo is available and cheap. The Charlotte Gun Show happens every year and is pretty nice.




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#27 13 years ago

I would join the rebels and seeing how you say it's like the holocaust only 10 times worst, I would say we would get the support we need fairly quickly. And what your describing is basicly a communist country. and seeing how few communist country's there are, and how weak there armies are, the Americans probally come in and probbaly quite a bit of other countries like britan france and some others. And even if they dont ( witch is about 98% unliklely) We would have support from them in means of weapons, ammo, health treatment and that is a definite. the army and police would probbally "misaim" when sent to deal with us. But then there would be the problem of getting the troups out.


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#28 13 years ago

Thank you, RE, and thank the US Military for allowing hilarious names for bases.

Hooray North Carolina! Making it easier to resist the government if they do something that required the use of force to correct it!




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#29 13 years ago

Going to be blood shed either way. Join the tyrant and fight the rebels, stage a coup and cause more civil unrest with a gap in power; fight alongside the rebels killing innocents and bring it back to prosperity.

As Relander pointed out, with a cohesive Democracy, the above will never happen.